Travis Dickerson Recording Studio Forum

I saw the PO vinyl the other day and just wrote it off as a bootleg pressed from cd but now i'm liking the odds of it being legit so i ordered one. 

What box was saying was to take off a track or two for it to fit on one vinyl.  Which isn't a bad idea but I'd be down with a double vinyl especially with the incentive of bonus material.  I think most people buying to listen would prefer the double and accept the up-charge.  Thou doing the double vinyl would most likely lose some (but not all) of the people that would buy it to hang on their wall.  And also some of the people wanting to buy two. 

Another thing to consider...  When Mr.Bungle originally released Disco Volante it was one long song over the vinyl limit so they cut Platypus from the LP but included a 7" of Platypus along with the LP

Yeah, it is an album. I think I would feel short changed to buy a version with a track or two missing.  What tracks would you lose? Probably my favorites.

Travis, another thing to consider is to make compilation albums on vinyl.  Whether it be an all Thanatopsis comp or a "Buckethead on TDRS" comp etc.  That might resolve some of the reduced fan base issue. 

Hey, Travis. One way you might be able to fit all 50+ minutes of Axiology onto an affordable package might be to go with a double 10-inch LP. Some of Radiohead's albums were pressed in that manner, and they're very good releases. It'd be more expensive than a single LP, but cheaper than a 2xLP.

Thanks for the suggestions.  I'm not a big fan of compilation albums ( Left Hanging was more a collection). I make albums and Axiology was definitely thought out to play as a whole. My Affection for albums comes from the vinyl era, so its a bit ironic. So I hate to break it out. But thats an idea with merit. I think if I remember 10" holds 12 minutes a side before the sound goes all to hell.  So, still a little shy and I did look into it, not much cheaper by the time you factor in printed goods. Also there are fewer places that do it, my preferred place doesn't handle 10". But, I'm not knocking any of this down, I appreciate the feedback.

Quote from: Travis on January 27, 2015, 08:24:23 pm
Yeah, it is an album. I think I would feel short changed to buy a version with a track or two missing.  What tracks would you lose? Probably my favorites.

nono dont cut anything short for axiology if it wont fit onto a single LP. im saying press a different album on a single LP under 40 minutes or whatever.

Peppers Ghost is 45 minutes long, that works for a single LP right?
Albino Slug 47 minutes
Decoding the Tomb 46 minutes
Elephant Man 46 minutes
Crime Slunk 44 minutes
Inbred Mountain 43 minutes

If Axiology ends up no-go for now, maybe see if people would be interested in a Thanatopsis self-titled pressing. That one is shorter, so you could pull off a single LP, put some of the money you get from that towards a proper Axiology pressing, or anything else that piques your interest. And I would definitely look into doing something through Kickstarter, that way you can scan for interest, and get your money up-front.

And advertise this kinda thing anywhere you can! Vinyl is HUGE right now. (There were more LP's sold in 2014 than in 1993.) I think people would be all over this if you could bring attention to it through Facebook or Twitter or something. Lots of fans probably don't hang out on forums, so you're only getting a fraction of the interest that's really out there.

Thanks for the response.  Just wanted to say that I am also very much an album guy, myself.  And wouldn't suggest it so much for the Thanatopsis material.  I think any fan willing to by a "Best of" Thanatopsis would just as much be willing to buy an Axiology double vinyl.

If this vinyl thing ends up being lucrative and you wanted to then put some Buckethead on vinyl.  The compilation idea might be a good way to test the waters while keeping it to a single LP.  "Best Of" or "Greatest Hits" compilations don't work for me because they always contain songs that you've heard on the radio a billion times and leaves out the good album cuts that the real fans want.   One compilation that comes to mind that works at give the listener new ways to hear familiar material is Tom Waits' Beautiful Maladies.  He, the artist, hand picked those songs and he doesn't have any hits to begin with.  So arranging songs from one portion of his career made for an fresh listen.

Again, the only reason I'd suggest that for Buckethead's material is it solves the keeping it to one LP situation and gives something a little new to the fanbase.  I for one would like to see any of it get pressed on vinyl.  Of course if there was one Buckethead release on TDRS that there was on overwhelming demand/sales for, making it an easy pick then that's another story.

I may be getting to far ahead...one step at a time...here's hoping to see Axiology get pressed!

Thank you for the reminder we are talking TDRSmusic releases, so the list of possible CDs from above there would be zero I could press. Not my records.

Quote from: Travis on January 27, 2015, 12:28:12 am
No need to apologize, I appreciate your thoughtful reply.  The more feedback i get the better to allow me to judge the  real interest in this.

Thanks Travis. I would agree with what some have already said. Those buying vinyl today are happy to pay more for a quality 2LP with bonus material etc, so I almost think this would be a safer bet than a cheaper single LP.

Plus like you have said, compilations don't tend to work, and an album has been created to be appreciated as a whole, so chopping songs off to fit one LP would defeat the object I think.

I still believe there will be many that are not aware of this forum or not registered that would buy this, we all need to get their attentions so we can make it happen.

I'm spreading the word.

Quote from: Travis on January 27, 2015, 10:34:14 pm
Thank you for the reminder we are talking TDRSmusic releases, so the list of possible CDs from above there would be zero I could press. Not my records.

any TDRS albums under 40 minutes

Quote from: BoxenstienMusic on January 28, 2015, 01:01:09 am

Quote from: Travis on January 27, 2015, 10:34:14 pm
Thank you for the reminder we are talking TDRSmusic releases, so the list of possible CDs from above there would be zero I could press. Not my records.

any TDRS albums under 40 minutes

I don't think there's ANY TDRS album under 40 minutes...the ones closest to the 40 minute mark are Chicken Noodles II and Left Hanging, and pretty much most of the Buckethead albums recorded here. Whatever vinyl is pressed, though...I WILL buy it.

in regards to the PO vinyl - i bought one off of amazon and asked ION for some details - here's the response i got:

"
ion is my label ,it was released about two weeks ago,i pressed 1000,deluxe the next pressing will not be deluxe,if this works will press buckethead land two,and both bucketheads cobra stikethanks
ps black vinyl
"

Quote from: bibLLiosoph on January 28, 2015, 07:08:59 pm
in regards to the PO vinyl...

That's outstanding! Thanks for the info!