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Title: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: JTSwagger on February 11, 2011, 07:16:28 pm
When a cd says temp - sold out under it how long does temp mean
Ive only been a member of this site for 2 months now, but population override has been sold out since ive been a member, so i went and bought a copy of ebay for 30 bucks, which is kind of lame cause id rather give my money directly to tdrs.
Currently shadows between the sky is temp - sold out and i am dieing to purchase this cd, listened to a friends and it is amazing, one of bucketheads best i think.
Also just wondering why all his cd\'s aren\'t reprodused, some earlier ones, does it have to do with who published and released them.
Any info on these subjects would be greatly appreciated
pz out bots
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Travis on February 11, 2011, 07:57:13 pm
It has everything to do with who owns the rights. We don\'t own a lot of them. Some we get from other labels when we can. Sometimes after a CD sells out, the sales from those are so slow that recouping the repressing costs can take years and we would rather press new CD\'s. I try to keep everything.
Currently I\'m trying to recoup pressing costs on Slaughterhouse on the Prairie,  Real Diamond, Forensic and a couple of others. As soon as that happens, I\'ll try for Peppers and Shadows.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Jowaxe on February 11, 2011, 09:26:58 pm
Travis, maybe its time to raise the prices on the cd\'s a l\'il bit...say $18-$20.

I\'m sure most of us would be happy to pay a little extra so that newer fans can get ahold of those older gems without having to resort to eBay and what not.

That said, i can\'t speak for everyone...but I would be happy to pay a little extra.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Bucketfel on February 11, 2011, 10:10:18 pm
QuoteTravis, maybe its time to raise the prices on the cd\'s a l\'il bit...say $18-$20.

I\'m sure most of us would be happy to pay a little extra so that newer fans can get ahold of those older gems without having to resort to eBay and what not.

That said, i can\'t speak for everyone...but I would be happy to pay a little extra.

I think i can steal 3 more dolars for each album. I wouldnt be happy but its fair
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Duckhead on February 11, 2011, 11:01:18 pm
I could afford a couple extra bucks per cd but I\'m afraid many could not. We are all hardcore bots here and will spend insane amounts of money on BH stuff but if prices rise it may cause more people to illegally download or buy from amazon or ebay. I had suggested to Travis that a donation link be added to the shopping cart so when we buy cds we can also donate a few bucks if wanted. My thought is most people like to do things in one shot, and it is also a way for "impulse" donating.

I\'d like to see TDRS make some duckets and get some of those cds repressed, as well as new posters and t-shirts. Maybe Travis and BH can put on a "benefit" concert, one night only. Charge $50 or more a ticket and use the profits to repress the cds? I\'d be there in a heartbeat!
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: robotpie3000 on February 12, 2011, 02:04:52 am
QuoteIt has everything to do with who owns the rights. We don\'t own a lot of them. Some we get from other labels when we can. Sometimes after a CD sells out, the sales from those are so slow that recouping the repressing costs can take years and we would rather press new CD\'s. I try to keep everything.
Currently I\'m trying to recoup pressing costs on Slaughterhouse on the Prairie,  Real Diamond, Forensic and a couple of others. As soon as that happens, I\'ll try for Peppers and Shadows.

The thing about rights I dont understand. I know that some CD\'s like Population Override and Funnel Weaver was originally from ION, but shouldn\'t it be easier for TDRS CD\'s to like, go back in stock.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Nubbins on February 12, 2011, 03:59:15 am
QuoteTravis, maybe its time to raise the prices on the cd\'s a l\'il bit...say $18-$20.

I\'m sure most of us would be happy to pay a little extra so that newer fans can get ahold of those older gems without having to resort to eBay and what not.

That said, i can\'t speak for everyone...but I would be happy to pay a little extra.

Agreed, I\'d pay more if that was a route TDRS decided to go. But like you said, that\'s just me. It may put the CD\'s out of reach for others.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: JTSwagger on February 12, 2011, 04:36:38 am
QuoteIt has everything to do with who owns the rights. We don\'t own a lot of them. Some we get from other labels when we can. Sometimes after a CD sells out, the sales from those are so slow that recouping the repressing costs can take years and we would rather press new CD\'s. I try to keep everything.
Currently I\'m trying to recoup pressing costs on Slaughterhouse on the Prairie,  Real Diamond, Forensic and a couple of others. As soon as that happens, I\'ll try for Peppers and Shadows.

Cool, thx for the reply travis, you guys do a great job btw, didn\'t mean to sound ungrateful, cuz this site is awesome
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Alex R on February 12, 2011, 01:44:37 pm
It\'s such a shame that talented artists struggle for money when mass-produced crappy pop music with zero talent rolls in millions.
I would also agree with having the donation section more visible, like on eBay sometimes you get prompted to donate to a charity on the PayPal page.
As for raising CD prices, if it\'s needed, so be it. I will still buy the CDs, although like already said, others may not be able to afford it, especially considering the international postage as well (I know that has nothing to do with TDRS, it just adds to the total cost). Then there are the RIDICULOUS UK customs charges. I won\'t go on about those.
I don\'t know about businesses, but could selling shirts via somewhere like Zazzle be an option? That way I don\'t think you need to pay for the production of them but get a small amount back in return.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Slaw_Slinger on February 12, 2011, 01:55:12 pm
QuoteI could afford a couple extra bucks per cd but I\'m afraid many could not. We are all hardcore bots here and will spend insane amounts of money on BH stuff but if prices rise it may cause more people to illegally download or buy from amazon or ebay. I had suggested to Travis that a donation link be added to the shopping cart so when we buy cds we can also donate a few bucks if wanted. My thought is most people like to do things in one shot, and it is also a way for "impulse" donating.

I\'d like to see TDRS make some duckets and get some of those cds repressed, as well as new posters and t-shirts. Maybe Travis and BH can put on a "benefit" concert, one night only. Charge $50 or more a ticket and use the profits to repress the cds? I\'d be there in a heartbeat!

100% agree!!!
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: koopatroopa on February 12, 2011, 07:19:01 pm
I could understand if you raise the price for a CD, but it´s so hard for me to afford a single CD + shipping to Germany as a student, i would definately buy less CDs if that happens.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Whale_On_This on February 15, 2011, 09:48:31 pm
Hate to say it, cuz I love packaging and a pressed CD, but it might just be time to sell FLAC downloads with cool high res cover art, ect.
Of course this won\'t help out with the rights issues being had on some of the catalogue, but its a crime that some of these newer albums are out of stock, and for all purposes OOP.

I know there would be push back by some bots but eventually, if it hasn\'t happened already, Bucket may not be able to afford to press new music onto discs; lets face it CD\'s don\'t sell anymore.

On a side note, I would be interested in how many copies Itunes sold of CEV during the time that bots thought it would be Itunes only. Those number could be telling.

Bah, I hate to see this shit happening.  >:(
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Phydeaux_3 on February 16, 2011, 01:21:35 am
QuoteOn a side note, I would be interested in how many copies Itunes sold of CEV during the time that bots thought it would be Itunes only.

They got my money!

smooches,
 » Phy³
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Whale_On_This on February 16, 2011, 03:34:49 am
Quote

They got my money!

smooches,
» Phy³

Mine too, then I bought the disc.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: nothinglost7 on February 16, 2011, 05:04:46 am
^^^ I painfully waited it out the whole time...... I just really don\'t want to give gigantic corporations my money if I don\'t have to. Especially when I know that honest hard working people (like Travis & Bucket) will make a much higher profit margin from a direct sale.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: 2001 on February 16, 2011, 10:50:01 pm
Got my package of CD\'s and poster today, thanks again Travis for taking the extra time with the poster.

Maybe if we can get enough response in this thread another pre-order type deal could be done for some of the OOP discs (I\'m looking for Shadows.. myself). I could certainly put money up front to help get some more discs available.

I would be completely against having download only format for new music. I am somewhat against the idea of spending money on something with no physical representation. There is something additional to Buckethead\'s music that having the CD makes it that much better. If download was the only option what would stop less scrupulous people from thinking hey I can either download it for free (pirate) or download for $10, which option do you think they would chose.... I am proud of my Buckethead/Travis/ etc. CD collection.... the only Buckethead in my music library that doesn\'t have a CD sitting on my shelf is NTT. I won\'t even copy Bucket cd\'s for friends, insist they purchase them instead.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: In Search Of The on February 16, 2011, 11:08:39 pm
I\'m happy with paying a little more to get harder to find, OOP CDs back in the store. My collection is steadily growing and they look damn good on my shelf.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: 2001 on February 17, 2011, 12:59:37 am
QuoteI\'m happy with paying a little more to get harder to find, OOP CDs back in the store. My collection is steadily growing and they look damn good on my shelf.

Ditto this; I\'ve paid more than the original cost for several out of print cd\'s (DOTR, SOTS, Bermuda Triangle)... I certainly wouldn\'t mind paying more for an OOP from TDRS because if the options are:
a) don\'t own cd  
b) pay high price from second hand seller
c)  pay TDRS more for reprinted version

I\'d choose c) because it will get the most amount back to the artists involved (Bucket, Travis, Brain, etc.) and the price would be the same as or likely less  than buying secondhand
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: In Search Of The on February 17, 2011, 06:40:25 pm
Quote

Ditto this; I\'ve paid more than the original cost for several out of print cd\'s (DOTR, SOTS, Bermuda Triangle)... I certainly wouldn\'t mind paying more for an OOP from TDRS because if the options are:
a) don\'t own cd  
b) pay high price from second hand seller
c)  pay TDRS more for reprinted version

I\'d choose c) because it will get the most amount back to the artists involved (Bucket, Travis, Brain, etc.) and the price would be the same as or likely less  than buying secondhand

Agreed. I\'ve point blank refused to turn to eBay to flesh my collection out. If I have to, I\'ll get it from eBay and donate money here too. By my reasoning, it\'s just the same as paying a little extra for a reprint that\'s unavailable elsewhere.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: Alex R on February 17, 2011, 08:02:58 pm
^You shouldn\'t completely reject eBay. As a buyer it\'s a great resource for hard to get stuff. Not CDs available here, that\'s stupid. But all the other times it is really good.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: In Search Of The on February 18, 2011, 08:06:24 pm
I don\'t reject it on behalf of everyone, of course, it\'s a great notion for people and it gets the word out there. It\'s just me personally. :)

That said, back on the topic, I\'m thinking of starting an online petition on behalf of fans to get those out of print and out of Travis\' power back in the store and re-printed once more. If the power of fans can do one thing, it\'s this.
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: 2001 on February 19, 2011, 01:04:59 am
I wouldn\'t get my hopes up for any OOP albums other than those on TDRS label to be reprinted/available again. Although it did happen with Bermuda Triangle...
Title: Re: Do CD\'s actually get re stocked
Post by: ToonGuns on March 06, 2011, 01:10:07 pm
I for one would certainly support a release of Shadows Between The Sky. I was away from home for 6 months when that one was released and therefore wasn\'t able to buy a copy. It is one of the few outstanding for me and like a few others above would rather not go to eBay.

Cheers!!