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Started by JSTHERACON, February 28, 2007, 04:56:28 pm
Quotesolar in no way do i mean this with ill will...but you are a glistening jewel of colossal ignoranceif you arent(werent) going to buy a CD in the first place and you still download it without paying for it is still theft. The keebler elves want everyone to buy and eat their cookies, myself i eat (and buy) chips ahoy. So using your logic i can go into any store steal me a box of keebler brand cookies eat em and say i wasnt wasnt gonna buy em in the first place. Debate over... you lost
Quotejustify it anyway you want but at the end of the day you have someones art and/or intellectual property you didnt pay for given to you by someone who didnt have the right to give it to you.
Quotewow, what a reply. take it a lot of it is adressed to me, since you quoted my post.but I cant read it. I worked (was painting ) all day....so I dont wanna make my eyes bleed...... no pun intended.said my opinion already. just have to add.because in the end ITS THE ARTIST WHO CREATES. IT IS HIS WORK,no artist - no music - what are those folks gonna download then?
QuoteDid Buckethead clear all those music//movie/tv/cartoon samples he used on his albums and everything he reinterpeted on the guitar? We can play this game all day. I bet you a C note he didn\'t. You would lose that C Note in a heartbeat. Thus Mr Bucket used samples illegally of what? Intellectual Propert.y Was he given the right to use it and authorized? No...Once again entering the grey zone. (Which we all do..it just depends how far we individually go)
QuoteWrong. Theft is a bad thing because it hurts people, rips people off and takes money away from people. Downloading a CD you would never pay for in the first place is neither stealing a CD from the artist, nor stealing money from the artist. The artist loses nothing... not a CD because you aren\'t walking in a stealing a physical CD from him, and not any money, because even if you didn\'t download it he wouldn\'t get the money anyway, because you couldn\'t afford it in the first place and therefore could never have bought it.That\'s, what, the fifth time I\'ve said that?You lost this debate before you even began. I proved your argument wrong before you even said it. Stop wasting my time.
QuoteYou are a complete moron, and a worthless piece of human trash. Who the fuck do you think you are, making up what rights people have or don\'t have? As I have PROVEN many, many times, not all downloading hurts the artist, and therefore not all downloading is wrong. As long as we aren\'t hurting anything, we have (should have) the right to do whatever the hell we want to do, and if you\'re against it, you are a disgusting, freedom hating bastard. Shut up now.
Quote"You haven't taken anything from anyone. You did not take the CD. You downloaded a copy of the music, hurting no one.
QuoteIf you steal the Mona Lisa, it's theft. If you print off a copy of the Mona Lisa from you're computer, it's not. You don't have to pay for the Mona Lisa to enjoy its art.
Quote"But I don't see why they should save up for gratification later when they could just get gratification now. That 13 year old kid needs his money for other things, and by the time he finally gets the doe, I'm sure they'll be out of print, and then he'd have to get one over E-Bay.
QuoteOh, wait... people don't have the right to sell or share other people's art. So I guess we should make E-Bay illegal too.