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Started by D.O.D, April 30, 2005, 04:12:35 pm

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stuffyrandL

An aside to the whole Bin Laden issue.  He was in Afghanistan, not Iraq.  There is one reason the US is in Iraq and it\'s oil.  We, as Americans, were lied to by the administration as to why Iraq was happening.  If Bush and Co. had said "We\'re going into Iraq cause I want the oil.", would the American people have accepted it?  Heck no!  So, he makes up some poppycock about weapons of mass destruction.  The administration lied to us, plain and simple.

As far as 09/11/01.  The administration uses that day to justify anything and everything.  Yet they haven\'t caught the person behind the attacks.  Why is that?  Ooooh, that\'s right!  He\'s in Afghanistan.  And all our troops are busy protecting Bushie\'s oil in Iraq and Halliburton\'s interests there.  

I feel the war in Iraq is wrong for many reasons.  Besides the fact that we were lied to about why we were going and the fact that over two thousand of our people have died,  there are other fish we need to fry, namely bin Laden.  If our administration were so concerned with protecting us, they would be actively trying to find that poor excuse for humanity.  

I have such a problem with bin Laden because he was too much of a coward to be a suicide bomber himself.  Instead those young men on those planes were sacrificed while he hides like a rat instead of standing like a man and being accountable for his actions.  Not that different from our president and his friends, really!

Sorry for the rant but it really frosts me when people use September eleventh as a reason we\'re in Iraq.  It had nothing to do with Iraq!  
Be happy while you're living for you're a long time dead- Scottish proverb

gkg

QuoteNot that different from our president and his friends, really!

Sorry for the rant but it really frosts me when people use September eleventh as a reason we\'re in Iraq.  It had nothing to do with Iraq!

right on, stuffy, right on!
Peace.

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edjane_maps

Hi my friends and don\'t forget of Viggo Mortensen,the voice of courage and the action of courage!!

www.percevalpress.com

  :-*
edjane maps :)

oldfolkie

How about my fellow-countryman (although he has lived for many years in the States), Neil Young?

Check out his site http://www.neilyoung.com/ where his new album "Living With War" is streaming.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. ~  R.A. Heinlein

Bakeka

Hi, I have not posted in a while and I forgot my password... but I want to applaud Neil Young\'s latest work "Living with War".
  In trying to emulate him, I revised some of the lyrics to the song "Feel like I\'m Fixin to Die" By Country Joe and the Fish, of 60\'s war protest fame.

  One of the first songs I remember growing up was this song. It has always been in my active memory files, as it were...
 
  Have you checked out Neil Young\'s website? He has a new album out and its a free down load! I like the way that man thinks.
 
 I play guitar some, but I have a flat singing voice, for a girl... I think it would be good if someone would do this little ditty again...
 
  I slept little last night, so it gets a little out of sync in some places, but, it might work with some tweaking...
***************************************
Well come on all of you big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again,
He got himself in a terrible jam,
Fighting off Islam,
Put down your books and pick up a gun,
We\'re gonna have a whole lotta fun

1,2,3, what are we fighting for,
don\'t ask me I dot give a damn,
next stop is Tehran, Iran
5, 6, 7, open up them pearly gates
Aint no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we\'re all gonna die
 
Well come on wall street don\'t be slow,
Why man this is war go go go,
There\'s plenty good money to be made,
By supplying the army with the tools of the trade,
Just hope and pray that if he drops the bomb
No one notices they are gone.


Alpha, Beta, Gamma
wasn\'t that the latest storm?
Don\'t tell me its gettin warm
 
Delta, Eplison, Zeta
if we keep r heads down in the sand
Rejoyce, it could be the end
 
Well come on generals let\'s move fast,
Your big chance is come at last,
Gotta go out and get that pres,
before all the oil is spent,
For he knows that peace can only be won,
"When you blow them all to kingdom come"


 
10, 9, 8
what happened to Watergate?
I asking ya to give a damn
it wasn\'t sadam
 
7,6,5, it shoulda been Gore
before pre-emptive war
 
3,2,1,
liftin off- no stellar ship
check out that radar blip
 
and its zero, omega, nill
aint nothin left
no need for govermnet,
 
these here are  the times to cry,
"You\'re gonna make us die"
 
the future aint no certain thing
lets make it worth living
 
uno, dos tres, come and take a stand
we know the Mexican\'s can
 
cinquo, seis, siete,
light a fire, activate
before the draft kicks in
don\'t say its not happenin,
howdy! aint no BBQ  on that table
 
 
Throw those hoodlums out of there
lest we despair.
Time is getting late
lets not lay prostrate
 
get out spread the word,
tipping point is not assured
less you see what happens next
lets throw them outta there
 
 
1,2,3, what are we fighting for,
don\'t ask me I dot give a damn,
next stop is Tehran, Iran
5, 6, 7, open up them pearly gates
Aint it  time to wonder why
the President gone an lied
 
This version by Kelly
(Original words and music by Country Joe and The Fish)
 
 
  
always and forever

SantaStef

Oldfolkie,

I heard a session over the weekend on CBC about Neil Young.  He became frustrated with the youth of today because they are not singing about political issues (Bush and his entourage) and lobbying for impeachment, like in the 60\'s.  He felt he had to get his message out there.

This led me to thinking why the majority of new generation isn't more politically concerned or active.  Don't they get it?  I guess if the effect war has not touched your life you cannot relate or feel the implications....do they know how many babies are without families because of Bush?

This isn't a video game...Sorry...I'll stop there....too many emotions.

I just want to say "Thank You" to all the voices of America who stand for courage and action for a new government of tomorrow.

Stef

gkg

i see a few large problems...

first, some kids are apathetic; same reason they don\'t vote - they don\'t believe that their action would do any good, so they opt to do nothing.

second, some kids identify anti-war with hippies, pot and acid rock, completely missing the message in the protests - they see it as just another selfindulgence.  OK - i\'m a hippie at heart so why would they listen to me when i say that\'s just another cop-out, even the term cop-out is suspect to them.  they feel that to be patriotic you have to accept what the government tells you to be true, just as their religion tells them to accept what the church tells them as truth.  they are very scary.

third, so much of the press is in the pocket of the administration so if all they are getting their info from is the mainstream press they ain\'t getting the news.  as a journalism brat this one steams my ass big time.  journalism was supposed to be a bastion of truth - not up for the highest bidder with favors in his pocket and stock tips in his desk drawer.

speaking of journalism brats, Neil Young is one too.  i share his outrage and dispair.

nice redo, on the words Kelly.  i wonder if you ever heard Exene sing "the future is a war" - damn if on that one she wasn\'t just so freaking right.
Peace.

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Bakeka

Having grown up with the developing technologies, and the growth of cable tv, it has occured to me that people today are just overwhelmed with input, from so many places.
    A lesson from my business writing class was simple: keep the message as short, clear and as easy to look at possible.
   If you can\'t understand the lyrics and the melody drones, you lose your chance.
   I think the kids in High School today, having grown up while this war has continued, may be the youth with the voice. I hope they find it soon.
   BTW, did any one hear anything about the march in NYC this past weekend? I must have missed it on CNN, despite waiting for it...
always and forever

Bakeka

A horror of a thought, but do you think if the kids of today were checking their draft numbers they might be little more concerned?

Iraq is not Iran, but this president sure is a loose cannon, IMHO. Let\'s not forget Afghanistan.

We probably are a little on the thin side as it is.

always and forever

D.O.D

Do everything in your power to prevent the reinstatement of the draft ,.  DOD

Bakeka

absolutely. No draft, No way.
But, The kids need to get a clue as to what it its all about and where it could end up.
 I dreamed last night, during the small slumber I was able to manage,   that  I was being drafted.my next stop was Canada...
always and forever

D.O.D

In 1946 I dreamed that I was never discharged from the Army, I just sat in the barracks year after year.  DOD

Bakeka

My Parental unit, to borrow a phrase, occasionally dreams he is back in the South Pacific in a fox hole... growing up, those nights were quite exciting in our house.

  Looking in his "commemerative Yearbook" from the 4th Marine division and seeing the full color pictures of the flame throwers and the occasional body on fire, I was an early opponent of the horrors of war. I think we get some of that memory passed along to us also, in our DNA, that mysterious and as yet un-understood phenomenon we are built by.
always and forever

Travis

I think it worth mentioning here, because he won\'t, that our own DOD was a part of the Normandy invasion and got out of the army the hard way, by being shot in the chest while with Pattons army. So he brings the weight of being a Purple Heart awarded veteran of WWII to his opinions.

sngwthme

Quote BTW, did any one hear anything about the march in NYC this past weekend? I must have missed it on CNN, despite waiting for it...

That would be because it was not there, and if it were it was more likely less then a second of air time.  :(   Afterall it was an an anti-war rally why would that get any press?  
I was not there as I am well over 2000 miles away, however favorable reports from some who participated stated the turn out was amazing and the march was very peaceful. Estimated to be well over 350,000 people attended. I don\'t know about you, but to me that makes a huge statement.