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Buckethead KCMO Beaumont Club 5/31/11

Started by stumpdangler, June 01, 2011, 01:45:34 pm

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Phydeaux_3

Stumpdangler! I can see my camera in your vids! I LOVE that Pinchy said "oh sure we have the Tonkas in stock" I guess he saw my shirt?! WTF did he say after that "and they\'re live pickle"??? I can\'t quite understand that last part.

Did you say hi to me (& sign my shirt?) I think I met (only?!) 3 bots.


What a GREAT show! Seven Laws Of Woo was a nice surprise!
Concert experience of a lifetime.
smooches,
» Phy³ . . .

Jowaxe

Killer binge Phydeaux!!

Sounds like you had a killer time man! SO glad to hear it!

As for the discussion going on before your post, take it easy boys...i don\'t think there was anything wrong with slunkatron\'s post and he didn\'t attack anyone.

Anyway, we\'re all bots....take a breather and understand that people form their opinions based on their experiences, not everyone else\'s...and thats why they are often different.

*robot hugs to all*

wicked redhead

I loved that "Tonkas in stock" bit too!!  

wicked redhead

The whole show kicked ass.  I grinned like the happiest idiot on the planet the entire time.  The snippet of "This is Halloween" made my night.
I\'m now seriously considering a drive to Fort Collins in July.....

beelzeBob

June 02, 2011, 08:17:03 pm #19 Last Edit: June 02, 2011, 08:57:18 pm by beelzeBob
Quote"I love Buckethead but I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs.  I have been going to shows for well over a decade now and the setlist has been basically the same during that whole time.  It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows."

Explain to me how that is drivel.  None of it is false and none of it is offensive unless you are extremely sensative to anything that could possibly be taken as a criticism of Buckethead.

What is drivel is you acting like me being able to go to shows over the years is some blessing from Buckethead.  It wasn\'t an accident or a blessing from Buckethead that allowed me to see the shows;  I paid for the tickets.  It is too bad that others have not been able to go to shows but has nothing to do with me wanting to see something different at one of the shows.  His performances have gotten better over the years but his setlist has not greatly changed.  You say that you have never seen the exact same setlist, but I have never seen one that is more than 25% different.  There are probably 30 or fewer tacks that I could list from which over 75% of the setlist will come.  For an artist with over a thousand tracks that is very limited.  I\'d like to see some of the other tracks make it into the show.  I understand that a lot of what he releases on CD cannot be done adequately live, but there are still a ton of tracks he could do that he never does.  I\'d like to see some of them.

The comment about you not coming to the board was in response to your "don\'t go if you don\'t like it" statement.  The same holds for not liking my opinions.  Don\'t come here if you don\'t like them.  If you don\'t like this response, then maybe you should re-examine yours.

Honestly, you sound like a child who feels threatened when anyone states anything that could possibly be taken as negative about Buckethead.  Rest assured, I am not challenging him.  I love his music and greatly appreciate what he does for the fans.  Again, I would simply like to hear more of his music than he seems willing to do live.  I do not see why this is such an offensive position to you.

"I love Buckethead but I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs.  I have been going to shows for well over a decade now and the setlist has been basically the same during that whole time.  It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows."  

So where in this statement do you identify this as your "wish" or "opinion?"

Stating it this way (Below) is much less offensive and does not put me in a defendsive posture:

 "... I would simply like to hear more of his music than he seems willing to do live."

 "I do not see why this is such an offensive position to you."

The position is not offensive. The rhetoric is. Compare it yourself.

"I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs...
It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows."

In my opionion (which BTW I am as free to state as you are yours) this comes off as whiney and demanding. My first reaction inevitably to statements like these are negative.

It is drivel simply because, stated the way it was, its your opinion (a rather negative and again demanding opionion of an artist who quite frankly, doesn\'t have to do what you want him to) and thats all, it is not debateable, it is not a discussion, it is just you complaining.

*edit: for the sake of others on the board I will not reply again. Sorry if the thread got highjacked. Slunkatron the last word is your if you want it.
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Indra

June 02, 2011, 09:09:31 pm #20 Last Edit: June 02, 2011, 09:12:34 pm by Indra
I am with stumpdangler on this one.  It would be great to see more variety in Bucket\'s live sets.  

I enjoyed the show too, I guess, but it was definitely the worst of the five Bucket shows that I have seen so far.  

-After the first band ended, it was an hour and ten minutes before Bucket & Co. took the stage.  Considering that there was virtually nothing for the techs/crew to set up, that was way too long.  I don\'t think I\'ve ever experienced a longer gap between sets at any show I\'ve attended (which is a lot).  

-Practically no merch, only It\'s Alive, for $13.  Typically there are multiple shirts and a huge catalog of CDs -- talking like 10-12 minimum.    

-Bucket played a TON of licks in the wrong key.  Highly distracting, and just plain didn\'t sound good.  Overall, he didn\'t seem nearly as into it as any of the other times I\'ve seen him, kinda like he was a little burned out almost, which is not good considering the tour is just getting underway.      

-No encore.  This was the first Bucket show I\'d ever seen where he was the headliner, and there was no encore.    

I\'m not even going to bother looking for a recording.  

I am disappointed, all told.  During, and for a good 1-2 weeks after seeing the other shows in years gone by, I have been left in complete ecstasy and awe.  Not this time.    

Sorry, bots.  I didn\'t feel it, and I don\'t think Big B did either.

But before I forget, nice to meet you at last, Phydeaux!  I\'m glad you and everyone else had a great time.  

gb714us

Its retarded how theres always has to be a right person when someone brings up an opinion.

chaotiktak

QuoteI love Buckethead but I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs.  I have been going to shows for well over a decade now and the setlist has been basically the same during that whole time.  It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows.

I totally agree, he has so many other amazing songs...

chaotiktak

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Actually, you did not state it as a wish. it was more like a complaint and a demand. That\'s what bugs me. Your free to express your opinion anywhere and anytime you want, unles of course you expect noone with their own opinion to respond and counter. You are not free to let drivel fall from your gaping mouth without retort.
Another point I\'d like to counter is that the shows are the same. Of the 10 I\'ve been to the set list has never been exactly repeated, and I have seen a ton of variety in what he chooses to play and how. As for not coming to this board, not gonna happen. I was here first. You can stop coming if you cant take a little critism. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people who have not had the pleasure of seeing BH even once, and you have the gaul to complain and ask for more when as you said you\'ve seen him more then 10 times.

well when you look closely to set list you can see that the "newer" song he plays is Siege Engine from Albino Slug in 2008. Since then he has released 10 albums !! (counting It\'s Alive & Empty Space) ; so I\'m sorry but I will to agree with slunkatron, no offense, his show are still great but he could just add fresh stuff.

stumpdangler

QuoteStumpdangler! I can see my camera in your vids! I LOVE that Pinchy said "oh sure we have the Tonkas in stock" I guess he saw my shirt?! WTF did he say after that "and they\'re live pickle"??? I can\'t quite understand that last part.

Did you say hi to me (& sign my shirt?) I think I met (only?!) 3 bots.


What a GREAT show! Seven Laws Of Woo was a nice surprise!
Concert experience of a lifetime.

Hi Phydeaux_3! That\'s pretty rad! Now you have a memento on video of getting your video memento! Crazy.

 I didn\'t get in the Beaumont until well after 8 and the opening band was already playing. It had been a while since I have been to KC and I took the opportunity to get some stuff done. I would have  been glad to meet and sign your shirt, though. That is a neat way to remember your first Buckethead show.

Once I went to the merch table and saw the "It\'s alive" cd I was overjoyed! Finally pick one up without a Paypal account! And a couple more, too. WOO HOO!!

I caught the Tonka quote, I\'ll have to investigate a little further about the last part. Pinchface\'s accent is a pretty thick.  

It\'s apparent that this is a highly anticipated tour and first set of shows by a much beloved Buckethead. While I will confess that it wasn\'t my favorite Buckethead show ever it was worth all the trouble to get there and back! I may have come off a little bit grumpy in my initial post...

Let me guess...Phydeaux_3 =  you have three dogs?


stumpdangler

June 03, 2011, 02:33:37 am #25 Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 02:44:04 am by stumpdangler
QuoteI am with stumpdangler on this one.  It would be great to see more variety in Bucket\'s live sets.  

I enjoyed the show too, I guess, but it was definitely the worst of the five Bucket shows that I have seen so far.  

-After the first band ended, it was an hour and ten minutes before Bucket & Co. took the stage.  Considering that there was virtually nothing for the techs/crew to set up, that was way too long.  I don\'t think I\'ve ever experienced a longer gap between sets at any show I\'ve attended (which is a lot).  

-Practically no merch, only It\'s Alive, for $13.  Typically there are multiple shirts and a huge catalog of CDs -- talking like 10-12 minimum.    

-Bucket played a TON of licks in the wrong key.  Highly distracting, and just plain didn\'t sound good.  Overall, he didn\'t seem nearly as into it as any of the other times I\'ve seen him, kinda like he was a little burned out almost, which is not good considering the tour is just getting underway.      

-No encore.  This was the first Bucket show I\'d ever seen where he was the headliner, and there was no encore.    

I\'m not even going to bother looking for a recording.  

I am disappointed, all told.  During, and for a good 1-2 weeks after seeing the other shows in years gone by, I have been left in complete ecstasy and awe.  Not this time.    

Sorry, bots.  I didn\'t feel it, and I don\'t think Big B did either.

But before I forget, nice to meet you at last, Phydeaux!  I\'m glad you and everyone else had a great time.  

While I am flattered to have people see things my way from time to time around here, I do believe Indra that your are referring to slunkatron. Sorry your experience at the show didn\'t measure up to your expectations, though.

Setlist complaints are par for the course and there are a ton of songs I would like to hear live, too. But when you get down to it it was a pretty bold move not to play Jowls or Jordan. I think the lack of an encore was due to the midnight curfew at the venue. I can speculate as to the late start, but I would have definitely picked some better intermission tunes. That made the wait that much longer, imo. Ugh! If a group of people has to wait for the house to fill at least give them something to dig on!!

I can see your point of view on a few of your comments, though. I have seen Buckethead live in a variety of situations since 1996 and at times it did seem that something was bothering Buckethead, technical difficulties with his guitar signal dropping out or whatever. But he was also playing some great stuff. There were a few clams or torks here and there but that\'s live music living on the edge bingeing on the shards and wedges in a manner of speaking.

stumpdangler

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well when you look closely to set list you can see that the "newer" song he plays is Siege Engine from Albino Slug in 2008. Since then he has released 10 albums !! (counting It\'s Alive & Empty Space) ; so I\'m sorry but I will to agree with slunkatron, no offense, his show are still great but he could just add fresh stuff.

I\'m not taking sides here, but by looking at the setlist what would you all take away and what would you add? It seems to me that this tour is, or these latest shows at least,  are about playing live and jamming more so than just "crankin out the hits" so to speak.

Phydeaux_3

June 03, 2011, 04:15:32 am #27 Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 04:17:57 am by Phydeaux_3
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Let me guess...Phydeaux_3 =  you have three dogs?

Not even close!
(Although I\'m pretty sure that p4ab could tell you what it means) Watch this for the answer:
http://youtu.be/6EWTgAFX7cQ
(3:04-ish)
smooches,
» Phy³ . . .

Jowaxe

Sigh...its sad when someone can\'t say what they think wthout starting it with "This is my opinion" or "I wish"...

Isn\'t that implied when posting on an internet forum? Nothing to do with music is fact, so how could you even take it that way?

Some people had a blast at the show, some people thought it was ok, some people would change the set list, some people wouldn\'t. *shrug*

Whats the problem?

stumpdangler

I don\'t know to whom you are replying Jowaxe, but in my case I would like to know some specifics from posters that would change the setlist to suit their current taste or to support their opinion or outline a complaint.

It is purely out of curiosity. It may be that there aren\'t any specifics and it is just a opportunity to vent some sort of frustration online. But, on the other hand, sometimes probing a little bit can get a whole new insight.

Maybe a better question is what songs does a poster think is played out, played too much?, etc...What new songs would sound good with the current trio?

I\'m not looking start any arguments, just discussions and sharing ideas.