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Started by Bucketdog, January 20, 2011, 02:16:35 am
QuoteAs a 40 year old fan of Buckey, I would prefer to have the original CD..and I have over 75.. none of which are burned copies. I still have all my albums from the 70\'s, cassettes from the 80\'s and early 90\'s and very little burnt material. All of the burnt material was given to me by friends to turn me on to something new...and if I like\'d the artist I\'d buy more. However as technology advances so do the ways in which music is obtained..I live in a small town where there is no record store..did I say record? The only place to buy music is Wal-Mart or K-mart...not much to choose from there! The internet is obviously how I buy music...but it seems the new way to get music is by downloading..effective but not for me. Not only do the artists suffer but so do the fans. Where\'s the artwork, song titles, list of band members, credits and thanks to on a burnt CD. I know I\'m old school but I\'d hate to see all that disappear..like the need for paper, or hand writing or cash!
QuoteI was also raised religious and i hate when people think atheists are retards. I am now one of them, and i know i dont know much but i dont think im retard, and all of the people ive met are not retards as well. Maybe there is a problem with the validity of your asumption."I can stand the idea of God, Its his fan club that i hate"
QuoteNot going to lie, I used to download lots of music. I\'d have thousands of songs on my iPod, plenty of artists... Not a single thing had been payed for. And while that\'s awful and wrong and thievery, it gets people to do stuff like go to concerts. Now, when I discovered Buckethead was when I decided I was going to start paying for all of my music, and had realized the error of my previous ways. Now I save up money to buy new albums and everything, but my iPod is barren. That irks a lot of people, and as mentioned before, it\'s probably not going to stop any time soon. Many times, there\'s no way to trace the originator of a torrent. Even if they\'ve got an account on a website, they probably use dozens of proxies just so they won\'t get caught. Then you\'d have to contact each of the people who continue to seed the torrent, etc, etc. Many of the people who claim to be true fans and haven\'t bought a single damn album try to back it up with things like "They don\'t even make that much money from a CD, anyways! It\'s all from merchandise and concerts!". It\'s not going to stop, unfortunately. The only thing we can positively do is continue to purchase albums and merchandise, and not download things. :sJust doing to add a little bit here: The reason a lot of people are driven to downloading is the cost of albums. Actual CDs, when you\'re a student or have little income and you\'re trying to split money between lots of things, cost a considerable amount of money. People see downloading as a heaven-sent way to enjoy music. You can get itunes-quality downloads, but for free. That include album artwork, song titles, name of the artist, genre, basically everything. When you\'re broke, and you love music it seems like a pretty good thing, and most people don\'t realize that they\'re depriving musicians of the money they deserve. I know I didn\'t. Then I got Spinal Clock (first Buckethead CD I got, signed. #360), I did some reading on what downloading does and haven\'t downloaded a single thing since. I do suffer pangs of sadness when I turn on my iPod and only have 26 songs on there, but I feel morally OK since I paid for those. Most people do not give a damn about morals.
QuoteI dont atheists are retards..i just got mad when i saw what those people put on the link. I didnt mean to call you guys retards for bein atheist..if thats what you believe, im fine with it..it just makes me mad when they put down God
Quote not sure how to word this without getting flamed but here it goes...I really don\'t see why some people get so upset by this. In my opinion these people who upload the music are doing it for bragging rites and the peple who download the torrented BH albums would not be buying them anyway, they just like to say "I have 100,000 artists on my ipod, how many do you have?" Most would never buy his albums so BH really doesn\'t lose any money, but he is gaining exposure. Also it may work in reverse - a few may say "whoa, I want the physical album" in which case BH actually will make money off them. To fight it, Buck and Travis would have to expend lots of time energy and money - and there is no guarantee that would help prevent this from continuing to happen. And what a drain, it would absolutely take away from the music making process. What we can do as fans is communicate in a civil fashion that what they are doing is disrespectful to the artist and if they are going to continue uploading albums they should also make available donation information to help compensate the artist for his work, education goes a long way. Then you get the people who buy the current cds, burn them and resell them. Not to mention all the counterfeit t-shirts, photos, mouse pads, watches, banners and the like. Those may actually be taking more dollars away from Buck and Travis than anything else.But this is coming from a music fan, not someone in the music industry, Travis has talked about this issue in the past and to my recollection he said there is no viable solution at the present time to combat it.
QuoteI\'ve always wondered how purchasing CDs from eBay is any different than illegally downloading them. No artist gets any money from an eBay transaction either. Why is it legal to buy music from eBay, but not to download it off the internet? (I don\'t download, but I do eBay).