Travis Dickerson Recording Studio Forum

I think today is the day the Jammy Awards will be handed out.  Yippie!!!  

As a recovering jam band fan I feel the need to rant a bit.  The first problem I find with that crowd is the total lack of knowlegde of what good music really is.  Debating the point with any of them is about as pointless as hoping your trip will kick in after taking bunk acid.  None of them even listen.  If they did, they would know how much the music sucks.

Next.  I am really tired of those stupid patchy corduroy pants for the guys, and some flowing skirt and tank top for girls being the standard hippie uniform.  Dirty feet and sandals, throw on your dreadlock wig if you have one.  These people are such posers.  How many people dress like that daily?  Not only that, but there is nothing artful or expressive about it.

I\'d also like to note horrible dancing.  Some of the people look like they should be institutionalized.  

And now to the bands.  Can somebody say 25 minute wank?  Or how about 18 minutes of painful repetition?  Everyone is so high, it sounds good.  Which brings me back to the fact that jam band fans have awful taste in music and are all trapped in the illusion they they know what sounds good.

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Don\'t know much about the Jammy Awards, but your post was entertaining to read.

Examples?  I know Phish is a jam band and thats all I know.

c2b3 was pretty much a jam band. In fact, pretty much every les claypool show i\'ve been to they jam on a riff for awhile. some jam bands go a little overboard but some aren\'t to bad.

I like Primus, but they aren\'t normal in any sense of the word.

Phish was a big one.  Members of that band formed other bands.  The Disco Biscuits are popular.  Of course there are the members of the Grateful Dead.  There are a few Allman Brothers Band guys floating around.  Santana has been known to jam.  There are a lot of others out there.

You\'re right.  It\'s not all bad.  I get what it\'s about.  The spontaneity of the moment and being there.  I can appreciate improvisation and dissonant sounds as long as the music is saying something, and something worth listening to at that.

I realize that no one can be 100% all the time either, but a lot of the shows I was at before my epiphany...well, breakfast cereal had more interesting things to say.

For some reason jam bands seem to collect lazy fans, the kind of people who want something for nothing.  It isn\'t all cases everywhere.  But from what I saw, those were the people who thought the music was saying something, and the convo got to dumb for me.

I know a good way to avoid seeing any jam bands and to dodge the associated annoyances listed above:

don\'t go to any shows where jam bands are playing.  

It\'s worked for me for...ever, actually.  I\'ve never had to sit through a jam band or deal with hippie jam band listeners at all, using this method.

Big reason why I\'m staying the heck away from Wakarusa, even though my 2 favorite artists are playing there (Ozric Tentacles being the 2nd).  I mean besides the stifling June heat, the fact that its in the KS woods, the insanely high ticket prices, the drive out there (ok, only about 60 mins away, but still), and the possibility that the only 2 artists I\'d care about seeing might not end up playing at all, that is.  

Umphrey\'s McGee is friggin awesome, how can you hate on them?

on archive.org there is an awesome jam with umphreys and buckethead, you should all check it out.

First off I was wondering why this rant got posted in this forum, I don\'t think TDRS is a big home for jam band junkies.  Although I loved the stuff about the patchy corduroy pants, dread lock wigs, and dirty feet and sandals (also, who wants to smell like shit and that weird hippie oil... pachulie i think??).  I don\'t think hippies realize that you can live a clean sustainable lifestyle without smoking weed and looking like a turd rolled in carpet fuzz all the time.
However, I have to wholeheartedly disagree with the strong prejudice dis on ALL jam bands and immediately connecting them to hippies.  Les Claypool\'s Frog Brigade is one of the nastiest jam bands I\'ve ever heard (by the way I am NOT a damn hippie).  I\'ve seen them live several times, and they were some of the best shows I\'ve ever seen.  I\'m not a fan of many other jam bands (unless you consider Government Mule a jam band, their guitarist is ill by the way) but damn man, take a deep breath, it\'s going to be okay. Maybe you need to check out bands with some decent musicians.

* SIDE NOTE*
Don\'t know what I would do without the Frog Brigades album cover of  Animals by Pink Floyd.

Quotec2b3 was a jam band.

 i\'ve seen/heard "jam bands" do some brilliant things, and it takes a very dedicated and educated ear to recognize it.

Here\'s an improvisional stroke of genius - The Disco Biscuits jamming out a palindrome of songs:

Voices Insane>Basis For A Day>l-man>Above The Waves>l-man>Basis For A Day>Voices Insane

basis was inverted, l-man was deslexic, and Above The Waves completed an unfinished version from the previous nights set. (10-01-02)


Buckethead has jammed along side of these bands you\'re hating on, and claimed to understand.

Have you ever heard the "18 minute wank fest" that is Buckethead and Umphrey\'s McGee?


Go bang your head against a wall and then go download theNewDeal\'s set from Langerado 2008



 

Jam Band Junkie and proud of it!
 

Chris DiCicco

QuoteI know a good way to avoid seeing any jam bands and to dodge the associated annoyances listed above:

don\'t go to any shows where jam bands are playing.  

It\'s worked for me for...ever, actually.  I\'ve never had to sit through a jam band or deal with hippie jam band listeners at all, using this method.

Big reason why I\'m staying the heck away from Wakarusa, even though my 2 favorite artists are playing there (Ozric Tentacles being the 2nd).  I mean besides the stifling June heat, the fact that its in the KS woods, the insanely high ticket prices, the drive out there (ok, only about 60 mins away, but still), and the possibility that the only 2 artists I\'d care about seeing might not end up playing at all, that is.  

Ozric is a jam band. If you hate hippies, dont ever see them live.

Quotebasis was inverted, l-man was deslexic, and Above The Waves completed an unfinished version from the previous nights set. (10-01-02)

I was at Disco Biscuit shows while you were still in grade school.  

I did say that it isn\'t all bad, and it\'s not all cases.  Of course, you chose to ignore that.  Who is the hater?  You are the exact kind of hippie I\'m talking about.

Cream, the Allman Brothers live at the Fillmore, Miles Davis. I guess I\'m a Jam Band fan. Have I dated myself yet?

Oh, Thanatopsis is a jam band.