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i had hoped it was just a nasty rumour...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051116/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/iraq_white_phosphorous

So, couldn\'t find WMD so they brought it in...
nice.

I was hoping it were a rumor too.

maybe we\'ve improved?  we\'re using WP instead of Napalm... um, because it\'s kinder and gentler?  chemical warfare... it\'s ok because we don\'t target civilians?  what does "covered area" mean in a populated city?  it means there are civilians in there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorous
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm

sad times.  sad sad times.

Ha, the US army and their use of chemicals. After "Agent orange" now there\'s "White phosphorous". What will they do next, "Blue lead", "Yellow vanadium" ? What will the next colour be? The bet is on.

red

blood red

Quotemaybe we\'ve improved?  we\'re using WP instead of Napalm... um, because it\'s kinder and gentler?  chemical warfare... it\'s ok because we don\'t target civilians?  what does "covered area" mean in a populated city?  it means there are civilians in there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorous
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm

sad times.  sad sad times.

gkg I hate to tell you this but we also used a form of Napalm in Iraq. In fact a British Minister resigned over this very fact a bit back.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030810-napalm-iraq01.htm
This sadly is not new news and in fact it is far worse than you may ever imagine.

thanks, dirtface, but actually it\'s not napalm.  what you\'ve got there is a rehash of a San Diego Union-Tribune article from August 2003, but even then places like the Sydney Morning Herald were running the "truth" - thin difference though it is.  what they are really talking about is a similar incendiary device, which many military personnel do keep calling napalm, but technically, it\'s not the same. you see, chemically the bombs discussed ARE different, although the effect on humans is virtually the same Mk77 it does not have the same environmental effects (so far).  i\'m not sold on that distinction, but in point of fact it is not classified as a chemical weapon, which WP is.  

i agree that it is horrific and should be banned as well, but naturally, we never signed a treaty that would ban the use of Mk77 - aren\'t we clever that way?

I had noticed the distiction. I guess I always get hung up on the hairy details of things like this. JOC who do you suppose works up these classifications?

QuoteJOC who do you suppose works up these classifications?

yeah, i know... in this case i asked a chemist i know, he told me it\'s a genuine distinction, otherwise i was ready to shout "BS" at the top of my lungs, ya know?  not that the pentagon cares if some loon in CA like me calls them on their bullshit.  it\'s utterly and completely insane, what they\'re doing, and even more so, that there are so few people calling them on it.

makes me wanna tear my hair out!!  

And they do it with your taxes.

i know, and in our name as well... sometimes the shame of it just makes me scream.  

QuoteAnd they do it with your taxes.

Insult to injury  

Here is some more info on WP or Naplam whichever you prefer to call it (source: http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/11-09-05/discussion.cgi.20.html )

Henk Ruyssenaars
CNN confirms use of Napalm by Coalition Forces
Wed Nov 9, 2005 10:54
62.194.202.218

FPF-Pro Memoriam:
CNN confirms use of Napalm by Coalition Forces
(The US denies of course.*)

"Protecting Iraq\'s oil supply"

SATURDAY, MARCH 22, 2003 POSTED: 1107 GMT ( 7:07 PM HKT)

From Martin Savidge - CNN

"We were up moving into the attack positions with the ground forces as they were preparing to head into southern Iraq. They met some resistance up there at the Kuwaiti-Iraq border. Well, that was quickly resolved. They called in Tomahawk strikes and airstrikes that went on all night long.

There is a lookout there, a hill referred to as Safwan Hill, on the Iraqi side of the border. It was filled with Iraqi intelligence gathering. From that vantage point, they could look out over all of northern Kuwait.

It is now estimated the hill was hit so badly by missiles, artillery and by the Air Force, that they shaved a couple of feet off it. And anything that was up there that was left after all the explosions was then hit with napalm. And that pretty much put an end to any Iraqi operations up on that hill.

Then this morning they airlifted in U.S. military forces that now hold that vantage point. So, all last night there was an intense artillery, air and missile bombardment throughout the southern part of Iraq. And that is what paved the way for the ground forces to begin pushing in."

EDITOR\'S NOTE: NAPALM, USED EXTENSIVELY BY THE US DURING  THE VIETNAM WAR IS A PROHIBITED WEAPON, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GENEVA CONVENTION.  

[ENDITEM] - Url.: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CNN303A.html

Original CNN article at Url.: http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/21/otsc.irq.savidge/  

\'See also the Report in the Sydney Herald: Dead bodies are everywhere\' - March 22 2003 - Herald Correspondent Lindsay Murdoch - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/944vp

[NYTr] - \'\'Resistance Says US Using Napalm, Gas in Fallujah\'\' - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/b98wd

\'\'US Troops Reportedly Gassing Fallujah\'\' - Story Url.: http://tinyurl.com/54ay6

Prensa Latina - "Exposé- US Uses Napalm in Iraq " - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/btw3u