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Started by gkg, July 21, 2006, 11:11:36 pm
Quote"they were under orders to "kill all military age males," according to sworn statements obtained by The Associated Press." - This concerns me more than anything else in the article. Who knows what really happened, for the sake of all the lives involved, soldier and citizen, I hope they come to the truth. But to think that our soldiers are encouraged to "kill all military age males" is sickening.
QuoteI read an article recently I believe it was in Time Magazine that stated, and I am paraphrasing here, that the psychology of war has proven time and time again (war after war) that most crimes that are committed during war times are a direct result of a leader encouraging, directly or indirectly, the inappropriate behavior essentially creating a mob like atmosphere. I agree it would be nice to hear some more positive stories and not just handing out candy bars.I watched a television program several years ago that claimed Iraq may have been better off under Saddam's rule. Woman were not as objectified, children were getting a western school education, and they did not have as much religious turmoil as they do now, but all this was a direct result of the fact that if you didn't do it Saddam's way he killed you, besides that one little problem...While all our heads have been turned to Israel, Iraq is currently on the brink of complete melt down. When will we ever learn? It makes me wonder if we had gone after Bin Lauden and won on that battle front wouldn't that have sent a stronger message to terrorist? And in hind sight perhaps Israel, Iran, Iraq, Hizballah, Hamas, etc., etc. may all now be playing a little nicer.
Quotethat\'s a long stream of over simplicification and rationalization that i cannot subscribe to. war is not the solution to any of the issues you\'ve skimmed over. it is doing nothing to resolve any of the issues and it is simply serving to keep the public in those places beholden to one faction or another; and making a small group of people very wealthy.
Quoteyou need to do some serious reading... how on earth anyone can think that war is a solution is beyond me. the solutions are actual dialogues and learning to compromise. the solutions are geniune diplomacy efforts rather than the nonsense that has been going on. i\'m sorry but you seem to want me to concede something or come over to your way of thinking or else \'prove\' my way is right - self examination of your own line of thought and what solutions lie within your suggestions would be more fruitful for you.
QuoteI can only conclude that you are unable to logically defend your position. Typical, happens everytime.
Quotewhile i agree that there may be times when war has sadly served a purpose, it has not been a solution. you confuse the two. there would never have been a resolution to any of the wars you cite without dialogue and diplomacy in conjunction and aftermath.sometimes war is seemingly unavoidable, but that does not make it a solution. as for your WWII analogy - do more reading - we did not take the situation seriously and again had our own ends in mind before we realized exactly where the entire situation was headed. it was our stance that we didn\'t want to get involved.in this particular case, war is steadfastly not the answer because there was no legitimate threat to anyone, it was a manufactured threat. you want to believe what you want to believe, that\'s fine.as for the rest - no, you don\'t really care to register what has been said so of course you\'re going to dismissively ignore what others are saying as not logically supporting their argument.