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Title: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on January 12, 2008, 09:12:36 pm
Praxis Profanation is now available!!!!!!!!!!  
 
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/search.html?type=AC&restrict=ALL&strict =&word=praxis

Got it today. Great disc. Praxis as usual.
 
The all-star line up:
 
Bill Laswell
Buckethead
Brain
phonosycographDISK
Rammellzee
Hawkman
Miaximum Bob
Dr. Israel
Monkey and Large
Grandmixer DXT
Iggy Pop
Killah Priest
Bernie Worrell
Serj Tankian
Mike Patton
Future Prophecies
Tatsuya Yoshida
Otomo Yoshihide

It shipped in about a week.

Profanation is  a mix of metal/thrash, techno, funk, dub, hip hop, etc. There are vocals on almost every track. It is not what I expected, but in a good way. It reminds me more of Material with buckethead and a harder edge, (which i guess is what Praxis is), maybe a little Devil Dub thrown in. I love this album, after 2 listens. Buckethead shreds on almost every track!
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: BHBoss on January 12, 2008, 09:35:49 pm
Don\'t know if you were aware but the website is shut down until the 13th.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: DUFFATRON on January 12, 2008, 11:41:35 pm
just listened to samples of each track, lots of vocals
wish i could hear more
i wonderrrrrr why this isn\'t available in the U.S.?

make sense to anyone, all other praxis albums were
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: Nubbins on January 13, 2008, 12:34:12 am
Quotejust listened to samples of each track, lots of vocals
wish i could hear more
i wonderrrrrr why this isn\'t available in the U.S.?

make sense to anyone, all other praxis albums were

Label conflicts I believe. I think I read that Laswell really wanted some good marketing for this album and didn\'t want to settle for something mediocre. The samples sound sweet, so I hope this album does well!

As for HMV, I ordered about a week ago along with many others. And while most people received it 4 days later, they giving me the run around saying it\'s out of stock and they\'re not sure when it will be back. Extremely irritating  >:(
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on January 13, 2008, 05:35:07 am
QuoteDon\'t know if you were aware but the website is shut down until the 13th.

Try this:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp

Use the search engine. I was just there 23 seconds ago and the site was up.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: ZQ on January 15, 2008, 06:59:42 pm
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/search.html?type=AC&restrict=ALL&strict =&word=praxis

You gotta copy and paste the whole link rather than clickin! Good luck!

I ordered mine this mornin...confirmed done deal! :D

BIG HUGZ!  :)
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: BHBoss on January 15, 2008, 07:56:21 pm
Quotehttp://www.cdjapan.co.jp/search.html?type=AC&restrict=ALL&strict =&word=praxis

You gotta copy and paste the whole link rather than clickin! Good luck!

I ordered mine this mornin...confirmed done deal! :D

BIG HUGZ!  :)


Do they actually have it there and ready to be shipped or is there a waiting period? If its there I\'ll probably have to go ahead and get it!!!
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: ZQ on January 15, 2008, 09:47:35 pm
Quote


Do they actually have it there and ready to be shipped or is there a waiting period? If its there I\'ll probably have to go ahead and get it!!!

I understood delivery to be...2-4 weeks I don\'t mind the wait...i like the feeing of aniticpation...and I\'m patient  ;)
A lil bonus...when you register...they offered "points" that you can claim at the register...I think it equaled about $5 what the heck... ;)
I haven\'t heard of it offered anywhere else so that\'s that  ;)

BIG HUGZ!  ;D


Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on January 16, 2008, 12:49:37 am
Quote


Do they actually have it there and ready to be shipped or is there a waiting period? If its there I\'ll probably have to go ahead and get it!!!

Here is my experience with the shipping from cdjapan.

I got a confirmation email right after I ordered saying it would be shipped in 2-4 weeks. About a day or two later I got another email saying the cd was in stock and had shipped, and would take 5-6 days. Got it last Saturday. It took about a week total.

ZQ- I bet yours shows up in about a week as well.

I think the 2-4 week message indicates that it "could" take that long to get the cd in stock, but it obviously does not take that long.

I am very satisfied with the cd and the service from cdjapan.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on January 16, 2008, 12:51:59 am
Quote

I understood delivery to be...2-4 weeks I don\'t mind the wait...i like the feeing of aniticpation...and I\'m patient  ;)
A lil bonus...when you register...they offered "points" that you can claim at the register...I think it equaled about $5 what the heck... ;)
I haven\'t heard of it offered anywhere else so that\'s that  ;)

BIG HUGZ!  ;D



The good thing about the points is they accumulate. If you buy from them again you will get a discount. Damn, I sound like a freakin\' commercial.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: Nubbins on January 16, 2008, 05:03:35 am
Finally got an email confirmation this morning from HMV saying that it\'s back in stock and ready to ship  ;D

The time to order is now!
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: ZQ on January 16, 2008, 01:33:54 pm
Quote

Here is my experience with the shipping from cdjapan.

I got a confirmation email right after I ordered saying it would be shipped in 2-4 weeks. About a day or two later I got another email saying the cd was in stock and had shipped, and would take 5-6 days. Got it last Saturday. It took about a week total.

ZQ- I bet yours shows up in about a week as well.

I think the 2-4 week message indicates that it "could" take that long to get the cd in stock, but it obviously does not take that long.

I am very satisfied with the cd and the service from cdjapan.

Thank you bleezeBob! super good  news!!
Cool that the points accumulate too!

BIG HUGZ!  ;D
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: severedhand on January 16, 2008, 06:08:34 pm
how would you say this disc weighs against say.. metatron or transmutation? I wasn\'t big on sacrifist or live in poland one..

I also wanna get my hands on Tennessee..

Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: BHBoss on January 16, 2008, 08:29:03 pm
Quotehow would you say this disc weighs against say.. metatron or transmutation? I wasn\'t big on sacrifist or live in poland one..

I also wanna get my hands on Tennessee..


Some people over at TK say that this one is fairly close to Transmutations greatness. I don\'t have the album yet so can\'t say from personal experience yet.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on January 16, 2008, 10:03:02 pm
Quotehow would you say this disc weighs against say.. metatron or transmutation? I wasn\'t big on sacrifist or live in poland one..

I also wanna get my hands on Tennessee..


Well, I for one love Sacrafist. To each his own (or her own).

Profanation has the diversity of music styles that Transmutation has, but is still very different. I paid about $37 for it and I think it is well worth it. The first 6 tracks are heavy metalish, the last 6 are funky, dubby weirdness that I love from the Laswell camp. It\'s a great album, get it.

But, get Tennesee 2004 first, that disc is just plain sick.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on January 16, 2008, 10:14:48 pm
Oh Yeah, Maximum Bob is on track 2 "Worship." Profanation is worth the $ for this track alone.

"Tell me what I\'ve come to run from.
Tell me what to see when I can see.
Tell me what to think when I\'m thinking.
Tell me what to believe or not believe.
Tell me who I\'m allowed to worship.
Tell me who to love and tell me who to eat.
Tell me what I can steal when I\'m stealing.
Tell me who you want me to kill"
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on January 16, 2008, 10:27:06 pm
This album grows on me evertime I listen to it. It\'s fuckin bad!
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: gb on January 16, 2008, 11:16:58 pm
I LOVE THIS ALBUM  TOO

BUT THAT SONG  ISNT MY FAVORITE   LOVE THE LAST THREE SONGS              AND 2ND HALF OF #8
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: severedhand on January 16, 2008, 11:57:22 pm
Holy! S**t Maximum Bob is on it?? man I gotta get this! I love Dawn Of The Deli Creeps and their Demos... my favorite song by Deli Creeps has to be Tribal Rites...I just wish they would do another version in the studio..

peace
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on January 17, 2008, 12:13:01 am
QuoteI LOVE THIS ALBUM  TOO

BUT THAT SONG  ISNT MY FAVORITE   LOVE THE LAST THREE SONGS              AND 2ND HALF OF #8

Dont have a fave yet.

I like the Iggy Pop tune alot.

I agree about the last three songs. Got a devil dub sound going on.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: doowhat on January 17, 2008, 01:14:54 am
Revelations Pt.2 is pretty sweet ;D
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: slunkatron on January 18, 2008, 01:26:57 pm
Just got the email from cdjapan saying that my order has shipped!  The first new Buckethead of the new year is on its way to me!  Woot!   ;D
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: severedhand on January 18, 2008, 11:36:09 pm
yeah I just ordered mine last night! hopefully mine will get shipped soon too! think I\'m gonna go ahead and order Praxis - Tennesee next..
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: severedhand on January 21, 2008, 09:17:38 pm
who would of thunk that my copy of this would arrive today on MLK? jeez I\'m 40 miles from home at work.. post office said they couldn\'t find my home because it wasn\'t on  their maps yet because its new development.... and  they closed at 2pm so man I\'m so unlucky.. this wouldn\'t be the first time this happened.. it happened when they had to deliver my copy of Giant Robot NTT,..

anyway I should have this tomarrow..
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: waisinet on January 21, 2008, 11:26:13 pm
So much different music on one CD - unbelievable.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: MazeFreak on January 22, 2008, 08:46:48 pm
Also ordered a copy yesterday - can\'t wait to have & hear that one ;D ;D ;D!!!
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: severedhand on January 23, 2008, 03:08:28 am
mine actually came exceptionally quick... I mean I only waited like 5 days.. and would have been 4 if they could have found my house hehe..  I\'m only 3 songs deep so far but it sounds awesome!!!!

Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: slunkatron on January 23, 2008, 03:00:16 pm
Mine arrived yesterday but I wasn\'t there to get it.  I just wanted people to know that the shipping to the US from cdjapan seems to be really fast.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: waisinet on January 23, 2008, 08:09:26 pm
shipping to germany is very fast too
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: severedhand on January 23, 2008, 11:46:20 pm
duuuude this cd rocks!!! actually rivals transmutation mutatis mutandis! I\'m loving it!! and brain on drums is refreshing!!


Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: eggman90 on January 24, 2008, 04:40:46 pm
Quoteduuuude this cd rocks!!! actually rivals transmutation mutatis mutandis! I\'m loving it!! and brain on drums is refreshing!!



Wow! I need to get this ASAP!!!
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: GiantRobot24 on January 24, 2008, 09:09:58 pm
Woo got mine today, shpping took a total of 5 days from when I ordered, I thinks thats pretty damn good (I ordered form HMV)
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: severedhand on February 04, 2008, 12:44:23 am
track number 9! Ruined is awesome!

Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: waisinet on February 04, 2008, 05:08:42 am
Quotetrack number 9! Ruined is awesome!



The only one without Buckethead. :p
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: DUFFATRON on February 05, 2008, 01:37:48 am
For those of you that ordered this from Japan, how did the shipping costs work out???  And there is no way to convert from yen two US dollars on their site, I have used a converter to figure that out, but I\'m still confused how the shipping works out in the receipt for using a credit card overseas
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: fuzzface on February 05, 2008, 04:08:17 am
Duff, I ordered from both cdjapan and yesasia.  There was a little cost difference and both ended up being approx. $35 (give or take a dollar).  Here is the cdjapan breakdown:
Shipped      2,500yen
Subtotal      2,500yen
Points Applied      -300yen
Shipping      1,500yen
Order Total      3,700yen
Final Order Total      3,700yen
(US$ 34.22)*
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: acrellim on February 05, 2008, 05:06:07 pm
I ordered mine from Yesasia.com for 26 USD including shipping.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: severedhand on February 05, 2008, 06:10:34 pm
lol I didn\'t even look at the liner notes as I was jamming. buckethead isn\'t on that one I guess haha! however I will say worship is equally as good!! and brain! yes brain! on laswell\'s spooky bass! excellent
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: Nubbins on February 06, 2008, 01:05:07 am
Sulfur and Cheese is my favorite track, very chill kinda song as well as some crazy 7/8 time heavy parts  ;D

Caution and Worship are pretty cool too. Other than those I\'m not really digging this record all that much, too many hip hop sounding songs for my taste, also I prefer the instrumental Praxis we all know and love. To each his own though.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: Bucketbot1031 on February 06, 2008, 05:58:19 am
Is that Saul on Sulfur and Cheese?  Pretty sure thats him. OOO and Worship def. is Buckethead. Just listen to it, I\'m pretty sure its him.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: Nubbins on February 06, 2008, 06:30:02 am
Sulfur and Cheese features Serj Tankian of System of a Down, killer tune!
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: Bucketbot1031 on February 06, 2008, 09:09:26 pm
Yeah duh I meant to put Serj.  I don\'t know what made me put Saul, guess I just had Three Fingers on the mind.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: DawnoftheBucket on February 09, 2008, 04:17:45 pm
ahhh, man. This album sounds so kickass. Buckethead, Maximum Bob, Mike Patton and Serj Tankian. Four of my favorite people. Just wish this could be released in the US, or at least be made available for legal download somehow, though the cover art looks pretty sick too.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: MazeFreak on February 10, 2008, 07:37:28 am
Yeah, got my copy last week, listened to it A LOT and must say: KILLER-ALBUM!!! 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: djhash on February 16, 2008, 06:47:32 pm
let me be the first to show dissapointment then.

:(

a lot of overly commercial sounding stuff on this.

i met buckethead music through transmutation first, and that still is one of the top ten things i have heard him on. that album is a masterpiece imo. this is a bit of a trainwreck. way too much lyrics.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: piikea on February 16, 2008, 10:15:11 pm
i hate to say it but i agree w/ djhash - this sounds like the praxis version of "enter the chicken".  there ARE some good tracks but many are "run-of-the-mill" & if i heard it on radio i wouldn\'t believe it was these great players involved.

nothing on it approaches transmutation.

it\'ll probably grow on me some but wow, all those vocals!!
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: slunkatron on February 17, 2008, 02:33:12 am
Yeah, it is a solid album, but way down on my list of favorite Buckethead albums.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: Nubbins on February 17, 2008, 07:49:28 am
It\'s not the commercial aspect of it that turns me off, it\'s the record itself. This album is just all over the place, too many styles and no unifying theme to the material.

For the record, I actually love Enter the Chicken, but I don\'t like Profanation much at all. So for those actually relying on some of these comments, don\'t base it entirely on comparisons to Enter the Chicken. This record is very heavy on hip hop/DJ sounding material and doesn\'t bear much resemblence to any former Praxis outings.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on February 17, 2008, 07:06:06 pm
Quote...and doesn\'t bear much resemblence to any former Praxis outings.

That\'s the only thing typical about any Praxis album.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: Slunker on February 18, 2008, 12:34:27 am
Quote

That\'s the only thing typical about any Praxis album.

My point exactly, does it HAVE TO resemble things that came before it? Isn\'t it just refreshing that it has its very own sound?

I think so.  8)
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: Nubbins on February 18, 2008, 06:52:07 am
Quote

My point exactly, does it HAVE TO resemble things that came before it? Isn\'t it just refreshing that it has its very own sound?

I think so.  8)

It doesn\'t have to, but there should be SOMETHING consistent about your sound, no matter how experimental you are.

As far as sounding refreshing due to its own sound, that is a valid point. However just because it\'s an experiment doesn\'t automatically make the results good, no matter how much work was put in to make it successful. If I made a great metal tune that won much admiration and then made a country tune as an experiment, I would rather hear a genuine reaction to each tune rather than "Oh, good for you for trying new things". There is such a thing as a failed experiment, not that Profanation was one.

Unless you\'re giving merit to the music simpy for the fact that it tried something different rather than the actual music itself, I can agree that new sounds can be refreshing.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on February 20, 2008, 10:26:26 pm
I think the music is fucking baddass!
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: acrellim on February 21, 2008, 06:21:41 pm
Remember....we\'re talking about a Bill Laswell creation here.  Just think about the multi faceted recordings by Material for instance. There\'s nothing consistent from one release to the next, except for exceptional music which may or may not reflect or partially incorporate the current musical trends not only from the USA but globally.
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: Dom on February 26, 2008, 05:26:59 pm
When is a US release date?
Title: Re: Praxis - Profanation
Post by: beelzeBob on February 28, 2008, 02:26:48 pm
There is no US release date. It is only available in Japan. Try Downtown Music Gallery or cdjapan.