Well it was a really good night followed by a rough morning after....but anyway
It was the same band as the first show of this tour. They really tore it up. :D Got to love that.
It looked to me like Bh was using a studio model of his Les Paul, at least from where I was standing. And he used the coil tap on a lot of the songs getting a really great single coil sound out of his LP and Marshalls.
I don\'t know if i can pull together a setlist from my videos that I shot. I hope the they turned out okay. If they did I will post some on my youtube page as I get the time. There is a link under my name to the left.
Bucketheadpikes #1 was the only thing at the merch table. And no Jordan or Jowls this time either. Lots of jamming and more interplay between Bucket and the Brewer than I remember before. I\'ll try and piece together something more coherent later, need to get some sleep.
Good to hear you had a good time though pal. Surprised at the lack of Jordan and Jowls (Pinchy\'s vocals would have made that track) but it\'s nice to see he\'s got the band back and he\'s experimenting a bit more.
did he play any newer songs?
No,
Here is the setlist
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23170216@N03/5784818837/in/photostream/lightbox/
I love Buckethead but I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs. I have been going to shows for well over a decade now and the setlist has been basically the same during that whole time. It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows.
QuoteNo,
Here is the setlist
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23170216@N03/5784818837/in/photostream/lightbox/
Oh good, one less thing to worry about.
If I remember right F# is pretty much "Revenge of the Doubleman."
I don\'t think any fan ought to be too concerned about the song selections. Each tune is opened up and splayed out with plenty of nubbin\' etc...
Methinks all the youtubing makes people jaded and can really spoil the surprises a lot of the time. I\'m glad its there, though. Just a notion.
QuoteI love Buckethead but I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs. I have been going to shows for well over a decade now and the setlist has been basically the same during that whole time. It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows.
Screw that. If ya dont like it dont go, cause i get tired of hearing the same bitching over and over. I\'ve seen BH 10 times and had an ecstatic grin on my face each time.
I thought the show was awesome, though I\'m small and didn\'t get close enough to see as well as I\'d have liked.
But "Want Some Slaw?" is all it takes to make me happy.
siege engine is sorta new.. at least new for this lineup. thatd be cool to see.
i feel like last tour he was able to incorporate more newer songs cuz he didnt have to worry whether the band knew the songs. but id still like to see a few more new songs this tour..
but like he said^ whtever is cool. but ill miss asylum of glass
I wish he would play Nottingham Lace, Binge and Grab, or Computer Master, or even tear it up on the banjo at some of his shows this year...but I dont think he will. Seeing the videos from the past two shows are really getting me excited for the show in Foxborough...it\'ll be my first Buckethead show!! ;D
Good show, indeed.
Drove from Ohio for my eleventh live Buckethead experience and was not let down. Final Wars was worth the trip alone! Good times. Cheers to B\' and the boys.
Totally agree with your take on youtube, stumpdangler. I completely avoided the videos from Minnesota before attending the Beaumont show. Think I\'ll go watch em\' now.
Can\'t wait for Nelson Ledges!
I just added Whitewash/Buckethead\'s Toystore for anyone interested. I think there is a quote of This is Halloween in between.
http://www.youtube.com/stumpdangler
Typical handheld camera/audience shot disclaimer applies.
Thanks for getting within driving distance again, Buckethead!
Great show!
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Screw that. If ya dont like it dont go, cause i get tired of hearing the same bitching over and over. I\'ve seen BH 10 times and had an ecstatic grin on my face each time.
Well if you get tired of it then no one should ever express their opinion because you are, after all, the most important person in the world and everything anyone does should be done with the thought of pleasing you.
Regardless, I was hardly "bitching." I was expressing my opinion that he should mix up the setlist more. He has hundreds of songs that he could play live that he never does. I am not going to apologize for wishing to hear them and expressing that wish. And if you hear this opinion all the time maybe it is because it has some merit.
Oh, and I have gone to more than 10 shows and enjoyed them all immensely. That doesn\'t mean the shows couldn\'t be improved by a few different songs. The shows are largely the same as they were a decade ago. Given how many songs he has released since then I think that is disappointing. If you don\'t like that opinion you can always not come to this board.
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Well if you get tired of it then no one should ever express their opinion because you are, after all, the most important person in the world and everything anyone does should be done with the thought of pleasing you.
Regardless, I was hardly "bitching." I was expressing my opinion that he should mix up the setlist more. He has hundreds of songs that he could play live that he never does. I am not going to apologize for wishing to hear them and expressing that wish. And if you hear this opinion all the time maybe it is because it has some merit.
Oh, and I have gone to more than 10 shows and enjoyed them all immensely. That doesn\'t mean the shows couldn\'t be improved by a few different songs. The shows are largely the same as they were a decade ago. Given how many songs he has released since then I think that is disappointing. If you don\'t like that opinion you can always not come to this board.
Actually, you did not state it as a wish. it was more like a complaint and a demand. That\'s what bugs me. Your free to express your opinion anywhere and anytime you want, unles of course you expect noone with their own opinion to respond and counter. You are not free to let drivel fall from your gaping mouth without retort.
Another point I\'d like to counter is that the shows are the same. Of the 10 I\'ve been to the set list has never been exactly repeated, and I have seen a ton of variety in what he chooses to play and how. As for not coming to this board, not gonna happen. I was here first. You can stop coming if you cant take a little critism. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people who have not had the pleasure of seeing BH even once, and you have the gaul to complain and ask for more when as you said you\'ve seen him more then 10 times.
"I love Buckethead but I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs. I have been going to shows for well over a decade now and the setlist has been basically the same during that whole time. It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows."
Explain to me how that is drivel. None of it is false and none of it is offensive unless you are extremely sensative to anything that could possibly be taken as a criticism of Buckethead.
What is drivel is you acting like me being able to go to shows over the years is some blessing from Buckethead. It wasn\'t an accident or a blessing from Buckethead that allowed me to see the shows; I paid for the tickets. It is too bad that others have not been able to go to shows but has nothing to do with me wanting to see something different at one of the shows. His performances have gotten better over the years but his setlist has not greatly changed. You say that you have never seen the exact same setlist, but I have never seen one that is more than 25% different. There are probably 30 or fewer tacks that I could list from which over 75% of the setlist will come. For an artist with over a thousand tracks that is very limited. I\'d like to see some of the other tracks make it into the show. I understand that a lot of what he releases on CD cannot be done adequately live, but there are still a ton of tracks he could do that he never does. I\'d like to see some of them.
The comment about you not coming to the board was in response to your "don\'t go if you don\'t like it" statement. The same holds for not liking my opinions. Don\'t come here if you don\'t like them. If you don\'t like this response, then maybe you should re-examine yours.
Honestly, you sound like a child who feels threatened when anyone states anything that could possibly be taken as negative about Buckethead. Rest assured, I am not challenging him. I love his music and greatly appreciate what he does for the fans. Again, I would simply like to hear more of his music than he seems willing to do live. I do not see why this is such an offensive position to you.
Stumpdangler! I can see my camera in your vids! I LOVE that Pinchy said "oh sure we have the Tonkas in stock" I guess he saw my shirt?! WTF did he say after that "and they\'re live pickle"??? I can\'t quite understand that last part.
Did you say hi to me (& sign my shirt?) I think I met (only?!) 3 bots.
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What a GREAT show! Seven Laws Of Woo was a nice surprise!
Concert experience of a lifetime.
Killer binge Phydeaux!!
Sounds like you had a killer time man! SO glad to hear it!
As for the discussion going on before your post, take it easy boys...i don\'t think there was anything wrong with slunkatron\'s post and he didn\'t attack anyone.
Anyway, we\'re all bots....take a breather and understand that people form their opinions based on their experiences, not everyone else\'s...and thats why they are often different.
*robot hugs to all*
I loved that "Tonkas in stock" bit too!!
The whole show kicked ass. I grinned like the happiest idiot on the planet the entire time. The snippet of "This is Halloween" made my night.
I\'m now seriously considering a drive to Fort Collins in July.....
Quote"I love Buckethead but I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs. I have been going to shows for well over a decade now and the setlist has been basically the same during that whole time. It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows."
Explain to me how that is drivel. None of it is false and none of it is offensive unless you are extremely sensative to anything that could possibly be taken as a criticism of Buckethead.
What is drivel is you acting like me being able to go to shows over the years is some blessing from Buckethead. It wasn\'t an accident or a blessing from Buckethead that allowed me to see the shows; I paid for the tickets. It is too bad that others have not been able to go to shows but has nothing to do with me wanting to see something different at one of the shows. His performances have gotten better over the years but his setlist has not greatly changed. You say that you have never seen the exact same setlist, but I have never seen one that is more than 25% different. There are probably 30 or fewer tacks that I could list from which over 75% of the setlist will come. For an artist with over a thousand tracks that is very limited. I\'d like to see some of the other tracks make it into the show. I understand that a lot of what he releases on CD cannot be done adequately live, but there are still a ton of tracks he could do that he never does. I\'d like to see some of them.
The comment about you not coming to the board was in response to your "don\'t go if you don\'t like it" statement. The same holds for not liking my opinions. Don\'t come here if you don\'t like them. If you don\'t like this response, then maybe you should re-examine yours.
Honestly, you sound like a child who feels threatened when anyone states anything that could possibly be taken as negative about Buckethead. Rest assured, I am not challenging him. I love his music and greatly appreciate what he does for the fans. Again, I would simply like to hear more of his music than he seems willing to do live. I do not see why this is such an offensive position to you.
"I love Buckethead but I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs. I have been going to shows for well over a decade now and the setlist has been basically the same during that whole time. It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows."
So where in this statement do you identify this as your "wish" or "opinion?"
Stating it this way (Below) is much less offensive and does not put me in a defendsive posture:
"... I would simply like to hear more of his music than he seems willing to do live."
"I do not see why this is such an offensive position to you."
The position is not offensive. The rhetoric is. Compare it yourself.
"I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs...
It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows."
In my opionion (which BTW I am as free to state as you are yours) this comes off as whiney and demanding. My first reaction inevitably to statements like these are negative.
It is drivel simply because, stated the way it was, its your opinion (a rather negative and again demanding opionion of an artist who quite frankly, doesn\'t have to do what you want him to) and thats all, it is not debateable, it is not a discussion, it is just you complaining.
*edit: for the sake of others on the board I will not reply again. Sorry if the thread got highjacked. Slunkatron the last word is your if you want it.
I am with stumpdangler on this one. It would be great to see more variety in Bucket\'s live sets.
I enjoyed the show too, I guess, but it was definitely the worst of the five Bucket shows that I have seen so far.
-After the first band ended, it was an hour and ten minutes before Bucket & Co. took the stage. Considering that there was virtually nothing for the techs/crew to set up, that was way too long. I don\'t think I\'ve ever experienced a longer gap between sets at any show I\'ve attended (which is a lot).
-Practically no merch, only It\'s Alive, for $13. Typically there are multiple shirts and a huge catalog of CDs -- talking like 10-12 minimum.
-Bucket played a TON of licks in the wrong key. Highly distracting, and just plain didn\'t sound good. Overall, he didn\'t seem nearly as into it as any of the other times I\'ve seen him, kinda like he was a little burned out almost, which is not good considering the tour is just getting underway.
-No encore. This was the first Bucket show I\'d ever seen where he was the headliner, and there was no encore.
I\'m not even going to bother looking for a recording.
I am disappointed, all told. During, and for a good 1-2 weeks after seeing the other shows in years gone by, I have been left in complete ecstasy and awe. Not this time.
Sorry, bots. I didn\'t feel it, and I don\'t think Big B did either.
But before I forget, nice to meet you at last, Phydeaux! I\'m glad you and everyone else had a great time.
Its retarded how theres always has to be a right person when someone brings up an opinion.
QuoteI love Buckethead but I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs. I have been going to shows for well over a decade now and the setlist has been basically the same during that whole time. It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows.
I totally agree, he has so many other amazing songs...
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Actually, you did not state it as a wish. it was more like a complaint and a demand. That\'s what bugs me. Your free to express your opinion anywhere and anytime you want, unles of course you expect noone with their own opinion to respond and counter. You are not free to let drivel fall from your gaping mouth without retort.
Another point I\'d like to counter is that the shows are the same. Of the 10 I\'ve been to the set list has never been exactly repeated, and I have seen a ton of variety in what he chooses to play and how. As for not coming to this board, not gonna happen. I was here first. You can stop coming if you cant take a little critism. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people who have not had the pleasure of seeing BH even once, and you have the gaul to complain and ask for more when as you said you\'ve seen him more then 10 times.
well when you look closely to set list you can see that the "newer" song he plays is Siege Engine from Albino Slug in 2008. Since then he has released 10 albums !! (counting It\'s Alive & Empty Space) ; so I\'m sorry but I will to agree with slunkatron, no offense, his show are still great but he could just add fresh stuff.
QuoteStumpdangler! I can see my camera in your vids! I LOVE that Pinchy said "oh sure we have the Tonkas in stock" I guess he saw my shirt?! WTF did he say after that "and they\'re live pickle"??? I can\'t quite understand that last part.
Did you say hi to me (& sign my shirt?) I think I met (only?!) 3 bots.
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What a GREAT show! Seven Laws Of Woo was a nice surprise!
Concert experience of a lifetime.
Hi Phydeaux_3! That\'s pretty rad! Now you have a memento on video of getting your video memento! Crazy.
I didn\'t get in the Beaumont until well after 8 and the opening band was already playing. It had been a while since I have been to KC and I took the opportunity to get some stuff done. I would have been glad to meet and sign your shirt, though. That is a neat way to remember your first Buckethead show.
Once I went to the merch table and saw the "It\'s alive" cd I was overjoyed! Finally pick one up without a Paypal account! And a couple more, too. WOO HOO!!
I caught the Tonka quote, I\'ll have to investigate a little further about the last part. Pinchface\'s accent is a pretty thick.
It\'s apparent that this is a highly anticipated tour and first set of shows by a much beloved Buckethead. While I will confess that it wasn\'t my favorite Buckethead show ever it was worth all the trouble to get there and back! I may have come off a little bit grumpy in my initial post...
Let me guess...Phydeaux_3 = you have three dogs?
QuoteI am with stumpdangler on this one. It would be great to see more variety in Bucket\'s live sets.
I enjoyed the show too, I guess, but it was definitely the worst of the five Bucket shows that I have seen so far.
-After the first band ended, it was an hour and ten minutes before Bucket & Co. took the stage. Considering that there was virtually nothing for the techs/crew to set up, that was way too long. I don\'t think I\'ve ever experienced a longer gap between sets at any show I\'ve attended (which is a lot).
-Practically no merch, only It\'s Alive, for $13. Typically there are multiple shirts and a huge catalog of CDs -- talking like 10-12 minimum.
-Bucket played a TON of licks in the wrong key. Highly distracting, and just plain didn\'t sound good. Overall, he didn\'t seem nearly as into it as any of the other times I\'ve seen him, kinda like he was a little burned out almost, which is not good considering the tour is just getting underway.
-No encore. This was the first Bucket show I\'d ever seen where he was the headliner, and there was no encore.
I\'m not even going to bother looking for a recording.
I am disappointed, all told. During, and for a good 1-2 weeks after seeing the other shows in years gone by, I have been left in complete ecstasy and awe. Not this time.
Sorry, bots. I didn\'t feel it, and I don\'t think Big B did either.
But before I forget, nice to meet you at last, Phydeaux! I\'m glad you and everyone else had a great time.
While I am flattered to have people see things my way from time to time around here, I do believe Indra that your are referring to slunkatron. Sorry your experience at the show didn\'t measure up to your expectations, though.
Setlist complaints are par for the course and there are a ton of songs I would like to hear live, too. But when you get down to it it was a pretty bold move not to play Jowls or Jordan. I think the lack of an encore was due to the midnight curfew at the venue. I can speculate as to the late start, but I would have definitely picked some better intermission tunes. That made the wait that much longer, imo. Ugh! If a group of people has to wait for the house to fill at least give them something to dig on!!
I can see your point of view on a few of your comments, though. I have seen Buckethead live in a variety of situations since 1996 and at times it did seem that something was bothering Buckethead, technical difficulties with his guitar signal dropping out or whatever. But he was also playing some great stuff. There were a few clams or torks here and there but that\'s live music living on the edge bingeing on the shards and wedges in a manner of speaking.
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well when you look closely to set list you can see that the "newer" song he plays is Siege Engine from Albino Slug in 2008. Since then he has released 10 albums !! (counting It\'s Alive & Empty Space) ; so I\'m sorry but I will to agree with slunkatron, no offense, his show are still great but he could just add fresh stuff.
I\'m not taking sides here, but by looking at the setlist what would you all take away and what would you add? It seems to me that this tour is, or these latest shows at least, are about playing live and jamming more so than just "crankin out the hits" so to speak.
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Let me guess...Phydeaux_3 = you have three dogs?
Not even close!
(Although I\'m pretty sure that p4ab could tell you what it means) Watch this for the answer:
http://youtu.be/6EWTgAFX7cQ
(3:04-ish)
Sigh...its sad when someone can\'t say what they think wthout starting it with "This is my opinion" or "I wish"...
Isn\'t that implied when posting on an internet forum? Nothing to do with music is fact, so how could you even take it that way?
Some people had a blast at the show, some people thought it was ok, some people would change the set list, some people wouldn\'t. *shrug*
Whats the problem?
I don\'t know to whom you are replying Jowaxe, but in my case I would like to know some specifics from posters that would change the setlist to suit their current taste or to support their opinion or outline a complaint.
It is purely out of curiosity. It may be that there aren\'t any specifics and it is just a opportunity to vent some sort of frustration online. But, on the other hand, sometimes probing a little bit can get a whole new insight.
Maybe a better question is what songs does a poster think is played out, played too much?, etc...What new songs would sound good with the current trio?
I\'m not looking start any arguments, just discussions and sharing ideas.
I wasn\'t replying to anyone specifically...more of a comment on how this thread has gone down.
You and some others attacked slunkatron for his post. He stated his opinion and you got mad at him for not identifying that it was only his opinion. We should all know that anyones post is their opinion...thats a given. I think a lot of Buckethead fans are overly sensitive about any criticism towards him. I think we could work on that. :)
Sure i think a discussion on what songs could be taken out vs which could be added would be cool...
*Special Note: These are my opinions lol!
I would nix:
Toy Store (even though its one of my favs of all time)
Metamatic
Foxy lady
Pinch rap (most people would not agree, i know it)
Gorey Head Stump
Soothsayer (ohhhh the horror!)
I would add:
Anything from It\'s Alive
Anything possible to play live from Empty Space
Anything from the HH LE
Anything from Captain EO
Anything from Slaughterhouse on the Prairie
And many more! The man has over 1000 songs to choose from...
He has used the same basic setlist for the past few years (with some minor changes here and there)...i would even have been ok with NONE of the songs in the actual setlist being played in favour of a brand new fresh setlist)
I do think he has it tough though and no matter what he does, he can\'t win. He\'s got the fans that NEED to hear Jordan, Soothsayer, Jowls etc...And then he\'s got the fans that DON\'T want to hear those songs in favour of newer stuff.
There is no right answer here...there is only wishing...and Buckethead is going to do what he does (and well).
I live in Canada and have only seen him 3 times...(twice in Seattle when i lived there). I would go see him in a minute if he came here...or somewhere pretty close, like Buffalo...but if I had spent a ton of money on flights and hotels and such and saw pretty much the same setlists as he was doing in 2006, I wouldn\'t be jazzed. I\'d still be happy to have seen him, but when you have a songwriter as prolific as Buckethead, i expect him to change it up live and not rehash his 2006 shows (with a couple of new tracks).
It doesn\'t make me less of a fan...i\'ve been listening to him since 1998 (which also makes me no MORE of a fan than anyone else)....
So...yep. There ya have it.
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Not even close!
(Although I\'m pretty sure that p4ab could tell you what it means) Watch this for the answer:
http://youtu.be/6EWTgAFX7cQ
(3:04-ish)
Oh, okay. Joe\'s Garage some vintage Zappa. I haven\'t listened to that in years. Never woulda guessed it!
QuoteI wasn\'t replying to anyone specifically...more of a comment on how this thread has gone down.
You and some others attacked slunkatron for his post. He stated his opinion and you got mad at him for not identifying that it was only his opinion. We should all know that anyones post is their opinion...thats a given. I think a lot of Buckethead fans are overly sensitive about any criticism towards him. I think we could work on that. :)
Sure i think a discussion on what songs could be taken out vs which could be added would be cool...
*Special Note: These are my opinions lol!
I would nix:
Toy Store (even though its one of my favs of all time)
Metamatic
Foxy lady
Pinch rap (most people would not agree, i know it)
Gorey Head Stump
Soothsayer (ohhhh the horror!)
I would add:
Anything from It\'s Alive
Anything possible to play live from Empty Space
Anything from the HH LE
Anything from Captain EO
Anything from Slaughterhouse on the Prairie
And many more! The man has over 1000 songs to choose from...
He has used the same basic setlist for the past few years (with some minor changes here and there)...i would even have been ok with NONE of the songs in the actual setlist being played in favour of a brand new fresh setlist)
I do think he has it tough though and no matter what he does, he can\'t win. He\'s got the fans that NEED to hear Jordan, Soothsayer, Jowls etc...And then he\'s got the fans that DON\'T want to hear those songs in favour of newer stuff.
There is no right answer here...there is only wishing...and Buckethead is going to do what he does (and well).
I live in Canada and have only seen him 3 times...(twice in Seattle when i lived there). I would go see him in a minute if he came here...or somewhere pretty close, like Buffalo...but if I had spent a ton of money on flights and hotels and such and saw pretty much the same setlists as he was doing in 2006, I wouldn\'t be jazzed. I\'d still be happy to have seen him, but when you have a songwriter as prolific as Buckethead, i expect him to change it up live and not rehash his 2006 shows (with a couple of new tracks).
It doesn\'t make me less of a fan...i\'ve been listening to him since 1998 (which also makes me no MORE of a fan than anyone else)....
So...yep. There ya have it.
For the record, I didn\'t attack slunkatron. Slunkatron and Beelzebob were going back and forth bringing up the old subject of setlists which made me curious about specifics instead of general ideas.
And I don\'t think anybody poster her is going to question anyone\'s "fan status." Some people may be compelled to question an opinion, others may be compelled to state their opinion at let it stand at that without bothering to explain. Either way is fine if you ask me. I\'m still giving mine a little thought. Thanks for chiming in.
You\'re right stumpdangler. I went back and looked and it wasn\'t you who took an attack stance...my apologies.
Don\'t know that I would change the setlist. Just seems to me that Bucket is making an effort to tighten up the band, pure and simple. I enjoy seeing him with an ipod, but this show was 100% live music, zero backing tracks! That is fresh, imo. Even the nunchuka/dance music was live, which is a first as far as I remember.
Also, *ACHING BACKPIECE* was stenciled on B\'s road crates. Not that anyone here needs to be reminded of his health issues, but naturally, it factored into his set.
The famed \'stretchy\' guitar strap was certainly missed, but I\'m sure it\'s no good for his back, considering the way he used to torque that thing out, playing one-handed with the guitar pushed 2 or so feet away from his torso, strumming the back of the guitar while playing one-handed, and all that fun stuff. All that stuff is pretty amazing flair that makes peoples\' wigs flip and was a significant part of his act.
Just an observation.
Jowaxe: Thanks for clarifying things there, I appreciate that.
Quitness: I really can\'t quibble too much with the setlist either. That\'s what I find puzzling. I hate to say "guess you had to be there" but from my standpoint this show was a big jam session. It wasn\'t a rote reading of the songs.
Like I said earlier each tune was splayed out and opened up for further exploration. Truly expressive takes on the now familiar themes. It was a joy to witness, for me at least. Youtubers can find fault from a distance, and they always will. Technical problems or whatever aside it was a unique experience, imo.
The "You had to be there" sentiment is true. Its about the vibe...you don\'t notice the small mistakes or question the setlist when you are there...this is all true.
I know the feeling...but the fact is, only a precious few were there and everyone else only has their experience to draw from (YouTube)...
I don\'t care if he made a mistake here or there...he does it at every show...i\'ve seen 100\'s of YT vids where he messes up. The guy is wearing a mask and playing in the dark! :)
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Not even close!
(Although I\'m pretty sure that p4ab could tell you what it means) Watch this for the answer:
http://youtu.be/6EWTgAFX7cQ
(3:04-ish)
Holy Shit... I love Joe\'s Garage!
Have ya seen Shawn Lanes version of Watermelon in Easter Hay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOMDVMIfkxg
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Sure i think a discussion on what songs could be taken out vs which could be added would be cool...
Since the setlist is being discussed...
Just thought I would put in my own \'fantasy setlist\' here.
Jordan
Ghost Host
Machete
Scraps
Bird With a Hole in the Stomach
Lebrontron
Track 3 Happy Holidays/Untitled LE
Big Sur Moon
Wound
Baseball Furies
Chase the Darkness Out
Computer Master
Carpal Tunnel Slug
Frozen Brains Tell No Tales
Encore
Dummy Egg
Soothsayer
So yeah, that is what I would wish to see, but since it will be my first show, I am not so worried about an old setlist.
^^I could get down with that setlist!
QuoteStumpdangler! I can see my camera in your vids! I LOVE that Pinchy said "oh sure we have the Tonkas in stock" I guess he saw my shirt?! WTF did he say after that "and they\'re live pickle"??? I can\'t quite understand that last part.
Phy! Glad you had a kick ass time! Sorry my prediction wasn\'t true about Tonka getting played live--but given the stretch strap elimination (for good reasons) I can see where it might not have had the same pizzaz.
BTW--Pinchy says "Sure we have the Tonkas in stock, and they\'re alive too kiddo." Gotta love Pinchy!
QuoteI love Buckethead but I am getting tired of always hearing the same songs. I have been going to shows for well over a decade now and the setlist has been basically the same during that whole time. It is time for Buckethead to start incorporating some of his new stuff in his live shows.
i couldn\'t agree more. why put out more than 10 albums since 2006 yet retain such a similar setlist. i don\'t get it. i mean he even uses alot of those songs when playing live w/ Praxis over the years.
i love jeff beck too but he does the same thing. how many times can you see someone play the same songs?
maybe i just likes more variety than most?? i\'ll still likely go to the show when he gets to my town howeva!
i am going to add to what i said earlier since this thread seems to be staying on that topic.
another reason i think we arent seeing more of buckethead\'s newest albums live is because the set up he\'s in now wouldn\'t work for a large portion of his songs (including the newer stuff). to successfully pull of songs from the holiday album for example, and a lot of the older stuff too, i think buckethead would have to be accompanied by a metal drummer and a rhythm guitarist in addition to monti on bass.
pinch is good, but he\'s more of a rock drummer.. monti usually programs some pretty sick metal beats, so basically a drummer that skilled and that style. also, the added depth of two guitars would be (and is on all the album versions) really sweet. and a lot of buckethead\'s songs require two guitars anyway.
i really like the trio lineup for the songs they are playing now. but in the future to really showcase buckethead\'s solo work live i would like to see the lineup with the metal drummer, rhythm guitar, and bass.
I think it\'s true what somebody (can\'t remember who, sorry) said about playing in a live band - he\'s just working on tightening it all up. I love the change, but I oddly loved the iPod set-up. It made Buckethead seem more of a loner when he was playing. Literally just him and his audience who have come to see him play. He has creative freedom up there. I think this tour is showing he can be in a band and pull it off. From the videos I\'ve seen, they look tight and play well together. I too would like to see a more varied set-list, what with the amazing albums he\'s released over the past 10 years. It\'s also about what works live. We can say something off Inbred Mountain would be amazing to hear live, but we\'d probably need around 7 or 8 musicians to get the real deal and not just some cheap riff over drumming and basic bass.
Honestly, I would enjoy seeing bucket with a full band that could pull off what the songs need to reach their full live potential I\'m talking more than just drum & bass, or Ipod. Also, It seems like he doesn\'t practice anymore, and doesn\'t remember the songs fully. I would kill to see buck in the praxis days. Now... I\'ve kinda lost interest in seeing him live. The bands he does play live with just sound empty, the Ipod was about the same. Not to mention all of the mistakes.
Well, there\'s no lack of variety of opinions, is there?
I still wonder, if you have some sort of idea that the setlist is lacking, what would you add and what would you take away?
Here, I\'ll make it easy for anyone that wants to give it a shot.
Here is the content of the setlist that was pictured earlier:
Beaumont Club May 31, 2011
Kansas City, Missouri
Slunk
F# (Revenge of the Doubleman)
Slaw
Whitewash
Toystore
Siege Engine
Metamatic
Final Wars
Crash Test
Fountains of the Forgotten
Foxy Lady
Pinch Rap
BH Solo
Headstump
Turbine
Soothsayer
Toys
Woo
Welcome to BHLand
Remember this is a trio and there is no ipod or backing tracks. Thx.
Honestly, those that think he\'s out of touch, he seems back on form with this. It\'s blistering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyQ5RRJ1N2M
Sorry for the double post, but here\'s a setlist I\'d be happy with. I don\'t want to seem too demanding, and I\'m keeping the band in mind when I make these suggestions.
King James
Lebrontron
F# (Revenge of the Doubleman)
Slaw
Crack The Sky
Siege Engine
Tonka
Final Wars
Rammellzee
Red Hot Mama
BH Solo
? (unsure of this one)
Welcome To Bucketheadland
I\'ve never seen Buckethead live unfortunately, as I\'ve mentioned he doesn\'t tend to come to the UK. I\'ve tried to think of what\'s worked in the past, and what I\'ve enjoying seeing on YouTube. I understand many of these used an iPod as backing tracks, but I\'m trying to pick those that I believe would work in a band situation.
The dream setlist for me would be:
Pepper\'s Ghost
Lebrontron
Crack the Sky
hh track 1
shadows between the sky
sled ride
giant robot
nun chucka kata
gory head stump
nottingham lace
frozen brains tell no tales
scraps
interworld and the new innocence
If he did this set with an awesome full band, that would be the best show ever
Some good setlist suggestions. I too would like a mix of old and new, maybe that will happen by the time I see him in NY in August. I\'m also hoping he\'ll have a band, but so far it doesn\'t seem so according to the available data. I\'ll admit I\'m not excited about Wolff opening. Only gives me more time to get to the show I guess.
QuoteI am with stumpdangler on this one. It would be great to see more variety in Bucket\'s live sets.
I enjoyed the show too, I guess, but it was definitely the worst of the five Bucket shows that I have seen so far.
-After the first band ended, it was an hour and ten minutes before Bucket & Co. took the stage. Considering that there was virtually nothing for the techs/crew to set up, that was way too long. I don\'t think I\'ve ever experienced a longer gap between sets at any show I\'ve attended (which is a lot).
-Practically no merch, only It\'s Alive, for $13. Typically there are multiple shirts and a huge catalog of CDs -- talking like 10-12 minimum.
-Bucket played a TON of licks in the wrong key. Highly distracting, and just plain didn\'t sound good. Overall, he didn\'t seem nearly as into it as any of the other times I\'ve seen him, kinda like he was a little burned out almost, which is not good considering the tour is just getting underway.
-No encore. This was the first Bucket show I\'d ever seen where he was the headliner, and there was no encore.
I\'m not even going to bother looking for a recording.
I am disappointed, all told. During, and for a good 1-2 weeks after seeing the other shows in years gone by, I have been left in complete ecstasy and awe. Not this time.
Sorry, bots. I didn\'t feel it, and I don\'t think Big B did either.
But before I forget, nice to meet you at last, Phydeaux! I\'m glad you and everyone else had a great time.
Hey guys, Beaumont was my first time seeing BH. I loved the show, it was incredible to be in the same room with such an amazing talent. I was curious about the lack of an encore as well. Based on the crowd response, I fully expected him to come back out. I mean, the crowd chanted his name for probably 15 minutes after he left the stage. At the time I assumed that he just didn\'t do encores in general but I see now that he normally does. Believe me, I\'m not complaining at all, the guy could have played for 10 minutes up there and I would\'ve been happy. I guess I\'m just a little nervous that he didn\'t enjoy the KC bots and may not come back to town.
I\'ve seen other shows with no encore. This was my first time seeing Buckethead with a band and I loved it. It just seemed more groovy and playful, though I love him alone up there with his Ipod as well. Sadly, I don\'t think he\'s making it to Omaha NE this year so this might be the only show I make it to on this tour :( But I\'m going to try for one of the CO shows if possible!
After reading all this I wonder if Big B was feeling alright.
Tried and True set list... no ancore... flubs here and there... bots thinking he wasnt into it... recent history of problems...
Yep it makes me wonder.
^^^^ Sometimes bands just have off nights.
here goes my fav setlist : (whatever the order)
notthingham lace
big sur moon
the redeem team
tonka
lebrontron
siege engine
i can only carry 50 chickens at a time
sail on soothsayer
frozen brains tell no tales
in search of inbred mountain
post office buddy
inward journey
final wars
aunt suzie
brewer in the air
separate sky
hero of the abyss
encore :
the embalmer
the interworld & the new innocence
killing cone
the rising sun
nun chuka kata
one can always dream ;D
I know that no one has called me out (which I am kinda surprised about, honestly) but I have finally decided what happened with me here, and it\'s really pretty simple.
All the other times I have seen Bucket were so amazingly fucking awesome that the one time it wasn\'t, I was a bit more let down than I should have been. If it had been my first show or if I\'d traveled hundreds of miles to see it, I probably would have been pretty damn happy. And it\'s not going to stop me from going to see him every time he comes to town.
So, bottom line, I\'m still a bot, and have been listening to Bucket albums nonstop since the show (yesterday, Kaleidoscalp, today, Inbred Mountain!), and Big B is still my favorite guitar player of all time. 8)
Even robots can have off days.
QuoteWell, there\'s no lack of variety of opinions, is there?
I still wonder, if you have some sort of idea that the setlist is lacking, what would you add and what would you take away?
Here, I\'ll make it easy for anyone that wants to give it a shot.
Here is the content of the setlist that was pictured earlier:
Beaumont Club May 31, 2011
Kansas City, Missouri
Slunk
F# (Revenge of the Doubleman)
Slaw
Whitewash
Toystore
Siege Engine
Metamatic
Final Wars
Crash Test
Fountains of the Forgotten
Foxy Lady
Pinch Rap
BH Solo
Headstump
Turbine
Soothsayer
Toys
Woo
Welcome to BHLand
Remember this is a trio and there is no ipod or backing tracks. Thx.
In an effort to keep this thread on track, I am quoting my post from the top of this page.
And perhaps I should restate from an earlier post: What songs are played out, old, or tired? What songs would you take out of the above setlist and what would you replace them with? Be specific!
While fantasy setlists are fun to compile, this is more specific to what you would do to improve the setlist above.
The most surprising part of of this is that I don\'t think that anyone has included the toy giveaway or "Toys" on their setlist. It\'s hard to believe that anyone is looking for that to disappear!
If you were at the show and have complaints, fine. If you were thousands of miles away and are just looking for another opportunity to "opine", fine. I don\'t care how many times you\'ve seen Buckethead live and I don\'t think anyone on this board is going to question your fan status or whether you are a bot or not.
Thanks to everyone that has answered thoughtfully so far :).
I would like to see Buckethead doing this setlist:
Night of the Slunk
For Mom
Bird with a Hole in the Stomach
Botnus
Star Chasing
Crack the Sky
Lobotomizer
Too many Humans
Banjo Jam
Binge and Grab
Disceto
Dance/Toys
Solo/...
Mad monster party
Siege engine
Track 7 of HHFB
Jowls
Pinch rap
Giant Robot theme
Waiting hare
The return of captain EO
Rim of the world
Flock of Slunks
I\'m making playlists for all the suggested Setlists in this thread. Should be cool to listen through them! :P
QuoteI would like to see Buckethead doing this setlist:
Night of the Slunk
For Mom
Bird with a Hole in the Stomach
Botnus
Star Chasing
Crack the Sky
Lobotomizer
Too many Humans
Banjo Jam
Binge and Grab
Disceto
Dance/Toys
Solo/...
Mad monster party
Siege engine
Track 7 of HHFB
Jowls
Pinch rap
Giant Robot theme
Waiting hare
The return of captain EO
Rim of the world
Flock of Slunks
This is good! The Beaumont show is probably the only time that I\'ve seen Buckethead not play the Giant Robot theme at all!!
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This is good! The Beaumont show is probably the only time that I\'ve seen Buckethead not play the Giant Robot theme at all!!
I wish I could see him, just once.
When I\'m old enough to fly alone, i\'ll fly to one of his shows and cry the shit out of me ;D
My dream setlist would be:
The Intro Song
Computer Master
Home Run Derby
Candyman is Back
Siege Engine
Jump Man
Revenge of the Double Man
The Embalmer
Buckethead\'s Toystore
Help! Help! Help!
The Redeem Team
Spokes for the Wheel of Torment
Final Wars
Nottingham Lace
Jordan
Jowls
Scapula
Soothsayer
Ghost Host
Asylum of Glass
Whitewash
Seven Laws of Woo
Bird With a Hole in the Stomach
Buckethead Solo/Nunchucks/Toys
Oakridge Cake
We Can Rebuild Him
Rammellzee: Hero of the Abyss
Fizzy Lipton Drinks
Buddy Berkman\'s Ballad
Gory Head Stump 2006
Brooding Peeps
Binge and Grab
Towel in the Kitchen
Sled Ride
Wax Paper
Encore:
Plankton
Sea of Expanding Shapes
Lebrontron
Crack the Sky
Welcome to Bucketheadland
QuoteMy dream setlist would be:
The Intro Song
Computer Master
Home Run Derby
Candyman is Back
Siege Engine
Jump Man
Revenge of the Double Man
The Embalmer
Buckethead\'s Toystore
Help! Help! Help!
The Redeem Team
Spokes for the Wheel of Torment
Final Wars
Nottingham Lace
Jordan
Jowls
Scapula
Soothsayer
Ghost Host
Asylum of Glass
Whitewash
Seven Laws of Woo
Bird With a Hole in the Stomach
Buckethead Solo/Nunchucks/Toys
Oakridge Cake
We Can Rebuild Him
Rammellzee: Hero of the Abyss
Fizzy Lipton Drinks
Buddy Berkman\'s Ballad
Gory Head Stump 2006
Brooding Peeps
Binge and Grab
Towel in the Kitchen
Sled Ride
Wax Paper
Encore:
Plankton
Sea of Expanding Shapes
Lebrontron
Crack the Sky
Welcome to Bucketheadland
You should make sure that he takes you shopping aswell.
QuoteMy dream setlist would be:
The Intro Song
Computer Master
Home Run Derby
Candyman is Back
Siege Engine
Jump Man
Revenge of the Double Man
The Embalmer
Buckethead\'s Toystore
Help! Help! Help!
The Redeem Team
Spokes for the Wheel of Torment
Final Wars
Nottingham Lace
Jordan
Jowls
Scapula
Soothsayer
Ghost Host
Asylum of Glass
Whitewash
Seven Laws of Woo
Bird With a Hole in the Stomach
Buckethead Solo/Nunchucks/Toys
Oakridge Cake
We Can Rebuild Him
Rammellzee: Hero of the Abyss
Fizzy Lipton Drinks
Buddy Berkman\'s Ballad
Gory Head Stump 2006
Brooding Peeps
Binge and Grab
Towel in the Kitchen
Sled Ride
Wax Paper
Encore:
Plankton
Sea of Expanding Shapes
Lebrontron
Crack the Sky
Welcome to Bucketheadland
Well, if you\'re gonna dream, dream big, right?
You may want to include an intermission in there, though. Maybe a couple! :)
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Well, if you\'re gonna dream, dream big, right?
You may want to include an intermission in there, though. Maybe a couple! :)
Nah, no intermissions. Id want him to play without stopping ;D
QuoteAfter reading all this I wonder if Big B was feeling alright.
Tried and True set list... no ancore... flubs here and there... bots thinking he wasnt into it... recent history of problems...
Yep it makes me wonder.
i got the
same impression at the san diego show. although to be able to play like that if you\'re not well would be even more amazing!