Please post here if you want SBTS to be re-pressed and you are sure you will buy it. Write also the number of copies you'd buy.
I had this idea reading a post on .TK and guessed I could give it a try since SBTS is impossible to find at a reasonable price. :'( I'd rather give money here than pay $50 or more for it. Hope this will help TDRS to re-press it !
So, I'm committing to buy 2 copies of SBTS !!
I would buy 2 copies as well. Good idea mrpancakes! 8)
Thx :) Now let's spread the word !!!!
I also would buy 2 copies!
i would definitely buy at least one copy.
:-)
Put me down for two!
1 copy!
YUUUP!
I'd have to take one also c:
I would order a copy.
I hope we hear information from Travis about this album and whether it will be repressed in the near future or not...we really need somewhere to buy this album without paying absurd amounts of money for a CD!
2 copies for me, oui mon ami
15 copies !! Come on !! Keep on posting, it only takes 2-3 mintues to register if you're not !! Let's get this album re-pressed bots !!! Damn, I would pre-order now if I could !!!
I get a thread like this here every few months. As people come and go new people ask and so it's been addressed many time but it maybe helpful to read this thread for some background:
http://www.tdrsmusic.com/forum2/index.php?topic=1196.0
We tried this over two years ago and the re-press still hasn't paid for itself. The problem is there are a small core of fans to begin with. Half of a new pressing sells in a few months then the rest can take a couple of years. After that it ones and twos. When a CD get to that point there are at most 30 maybe, if a big effort is under way, 40 people who would really pay to repress.
There are a number of other threads here about this. We have brain stormed a bunch of options but in the end it's just supply and demand. Unless the option to do one offs or on demand is on the table (also been discussed here). There are other distribution issues at play now as well, but I'm still willing to kick it around.
I totally understand about this. I wasn't aware of that thread, thx ! I can see how long it took. But in my opinion, Shadows would sell really fast with a little promotion. And personally, I wouldn't mind at all paying more for it. Again, as you stated in another thread, I wouldn't mind receiving only the CD and the printed goods, and I supply the case. Maybe it could be re-pressed in lower quantities too. I'm throwing in some old ideas, but seriously, I'm sure it would sell faster than Diamond and Prairie with some kind of promotion around the net.
I fear that no so many people are posting on this thread thinking it's waste of time, but if it ever gets to the real thing of pre-orders, from reading on many websites, I'm sure it would sell. I'm also going to donate to TDRS soon (when I get my paycheck) hoping it can help in the re-impression !
Travis, most of us want this to happen. Here is the solution:
If there isnt any legal mumbo-jumbo to be solved and what you are worried is that when people swear they will buy but eventually dont, simply start a kickstart page.
Ive seen some people use it, mostly youtube figures trying to get funds for bigger projects and even some videogame creators trying to get this directly to fans. Maybe you can start a page there and let us fund the repress. Then you will not have to worry about those who say they will help but eventually dont.
Please look into this page and i hope this helps.
http://www.kickstarter.com/
Finally signing up to TDRS just to say this, I am most sincerely down for 2 copies.
A point I'd like to raise is the last copy of this on ebay was $214. This must mean there are at least a few people willing to pay the same amount 10 copies would cost originally, so I'm hoping even if there aren't 100 people or however many, if it averaged out about 2 a person that sounds closer to how many the 'core' fan base might include. They do make great gifts, don't ya know!
I'd buy 1.
Although i do know Travis has touched on this subject before, you could put me down for one copy. I already own a copy, but if it helps to get it repressed it wouldnt hurt to own a second one.
I would also buy 2 copies, if it helps to get a repressing. I really want this cd, but I'm not going to pay those crazy ebay prices!
what the heck..??!!? I just looked on ebay and this CD is going for over $100. I had to go pull my copy to listen to it again. I might have to throw it up on ebay so I can generate funds to buy the 10 CD box set. I bought a couple of the original ISOT disks but I could never comlete the collection.
I will buy 2 copies quaranteed
Mrpancakes,
I think the only solution would be for Travis to tell us exactly how many copies he would need to sell to cover the initial investment of repressing the discs. Then have a pre-order of that amount so Tdrs and bucket don't go into the "red" on this endeavor. So if we at least cover the initial cost, the rest will be gravy for them. Even if it takes a year or 2 to sell the rest it would still be worth it. I don't think there is enough posts here to make that happen...yet.
If all of you are really serious about this, perhaps Travis could shoot us a number of pre-orders he would like to get to before pressing. And a signed and numbered batch of repressings would make it a bit more desirable for bots that already have that wedge. Money talks and empty promises walks.
I'd rather pay for a sbts LE than another best regards LE anyday. Maybe a different album cover with a bonus track or 2 for the LE batch too.
Quote from: Tempbucketdog on April 02, 2012, 12:30:47 pm
Mrpancakes,
I think the only solution would be for Travis to tell us exactly how many copies he would need to sell to cover the initial investment of repressing the discs. Then have a pre-order of that amount so Tdrs and bucket don't go into the "red" on this endeavor. So if we at least cover the initial cost, the rest will be gravy for them. Even if it takes a year or 2 to sell the rest it would still be worth it. I don't think there is enough posts here to make that happen...yet.
If all of you are really serious about this, perhaps Travis could shoot us a number of pre-orders he would like to get to before pressing. And a signed and numbered batch of repressings would make it a bit more desirable for bots that already have that wedge. Money talks and empty promises walks.
This is basically the deal with the Kickstarter option. Lots of people 'pledge' however much they want towards a project within a certain time frame, and hopefully make enough to hit the target. If not, no money is taken and it's like it never happened and nothing is lost, but if we get to the right sum they would keep the lot and everyone involved gets a cd (or whatever else offered ;) )
If I may use an example someone said in another forum, Ginger Wildheart has an album called 555% because that's how much he raised by the end. These seem to be fairly successful, need to go and find some stats somewhere...
^^That's basically what I was going to say. I agree with you, tempbucketdog, I don't think there's enough people asking for it now, but Kickstart or PledgeMusic is great way, in my opinion, to make this happen. And I agree too with what you said about the LEs.
BTW, I had an email from Buckethead Pikes Service about SBTS. Here's what it says:
Nicolas,
It will be repressed at some time in the future. The release date is still to be determined.
Buckethead Pikes Service
What do you bots think ??
I should chime in and comment. We have done something like this in the past. (Kickstarter, remember, they are a for profit company and and it costs about 10 percent after charge fees, a lot when such slim margins are involved.) We had people pre-pay over several months. Around 40 or so sales then commitments peter out. To really work we need around 100 just to pay for the pressing, we have never even come close to that in the past, and it seems it should really be folks that want it because they don't have it and really only need one (1), otherwise it's really not a fair supply and demand thing. Pressings are 1000 units minimum. There are several out of print CDs, as you can imagine the storage for unsold CDs is a real problem and they sell very slowly after they're first released, it can take years , way more then just a couple. So for several CDs it a problem in of itself.
The problem really is the nature of an independent artist with a finite fan base. I'm just saying this so you all have some perspective on why re-pressings aren't automatic.
One last thing and I've mentioned this before in other threads. The CD's we have been talking about are the product of Bucketheadland, Buckethead's own label. In the past I have co-ordinated repressing on their behalf when asked to do so. Right now, the distribution for these is a little up in the air. I have not been asked to help with this and until I am, I'm going to assume it's a low priority or it's being done elsewhere. I'll pass along the interest in repressing and if there is anything I can do to help, I will.
Thanks for the info, Travis, it's appreciated.
Two copies for me, paypal or C-Card right away.
LOVE that album!
I'd like a copy as well. I can't promise to buy 2, but I'd consider buying a second if there are any leftovers.
I'm desperate to own a copy of the album.
I've seen a couple on eBay for mammoth prices. I'm hoping it won't stay this way, as there's a lot of demand for this.
Just out of interest, what other releases are OOP and/or rare?
Quote from: In Search Of The on April 06, 2012, 03:34:58 pm
I've seen a couple on eBay for mammoth prices. I'm hoping it won't stay this way, as there's a lot of demand for this.
Just out of interest, what other releases are OOP and/or rare?
Crime Slunk Scene, Elephant Man's Alarm Clock, Bolt On Neck, The 13th Scroll, and Pepper's Ghost
Everyone agrees that these will be repressed. Still need to work out details. Will try to get some answers for you sometime in May once things settle out from Aprils activities.
I'd buy at least 2 copies....and i just spent a ridiculous amount to get a used one.
This isn't the only CD in need of repressing, either. A number of his best albums are out of print.
Quote from: skillzwitpillz on April 06, 2012, 10:12:43 pmThis isn't the only CD in need of repressing, either. A number of his best albums are out of print.
Pepper's Ghost :-[
$344.95 on Amazon. That's simply too much for my budget :'(
I did get sbts on ebay for a good price but a brand new shiny one would be sweeeeet
i'm down for a copy and 1 for peppers ghost. i've bought all the cds off this site that i like from BH and paid over 100$ so my word is good. if a preorder pay now were in state to get em repressed, i'd do it. if that's the issue people npt paying after having said they would just have X amount of time for peple to pay and if the orders aren't don't meet the minimin requirment then call it off and never bother w/ it again. make us put the $$ were our mouth is.
Quote from: rustman1984 on April 22, 2012, 10:49:04 pm
i'm down for a copy and 1 for peppers ghost. i've bought all the cds off this site that i like from BH and paid over 100$ so my word is good. if a preorder pay now were in state to get em repressed, i'd do it. if that's the issue people npt paying after having said they would just have X amount of time for peple to pay and if the orders aren't don't meet the minimin requirment then call it off and never bother w/ it again. make us put the $$ were our mouth is.
I think Travis just stated they will be moving forward with the repress after some details are worked out. ;)
I would definately buy a copy of Shadows Between the Sky and a copy of Peppers Ghost. Actually, any cd that may be re-pressed I would buy a copy of. :)
[ Please re-press it now !! I absolutely want a copy !!
I wonder if Travis could give us some information soon about the album...he did say he would give us some details sometime this month...hope he gives us good news and that it gets repressed real soon! :D
Any new information? Since Balloon Cement is out now, it seems like the question of Shadows being repressed is up in the air again.
Is it possible to re-release The Elephant Man's Alarm Clock as well? I am so mad that I discovered Bucket this late... and this album, i just gotta collect it and put into my stash!! :-[
Yep, so May past and nothing happened...
Yep, sorry. I just haven't heard what the plans are for these CDs. the best I can do is as soon as I hear I'll post it.
Thank you Travis :)
Still no news on the repress yet? :-\
I'm in for a copy of Shadows if it gets repressed. I also bid for Elephant Man, Pepper's Ghost, and Crime Slunk Scene as well. I just can't pay an arm and a leg for them.
I'd be in for 2-3 shadows cd.
As much as we all (including myself) want this to happen, it probably never will. I'd be down for a copy of this CD.
Even if Travis (or whoever is in charge of repressing this particular CD) did have this repressed, I wouldn't mind paying something like $25 for it.
i'll take two ... also need captain EO too
I made an account here just to post in this thread. Please re-press this album! This and Captain EO are fantastic but can't be found anywhere.
This is an old thread but things have not changed. These CDs are not TDRS and so I don't have any say about repressing them, thats up to Bucketheadland. My guess though is these will never be repressed. For all the reasons we have talked about above . The market for CDs has only gotten weaker and for CDs that have already sold 1000 copies there just is no incentive to pony up the pressing costs, it would take years to sell enough to pay for the pressing and actually from past experience, they never would.
That's a shame. Would Bucket ever do a kickstarter or something to guarantee enough people would be interested? Obviously the Pikes are his main focus now but he's put out a lot of great music that's so hard to get ahold of, I know I could download the album but it's just not the same.